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egikov #1 Posted 05 May 2016 - 08:28 PM

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De Havilland Vampire, Hawker Tempest, Hawker Typhoon, Heinkel He 219, Heinkel He 162,  F6F Hellcat, F-82 Twin Mustang, P-61 Black Widow, Yak-25, Petlyakov Pe-3, P-39 (not premium), P-63 Kingcobra, P-80 Shooting Star, Mitsubishi J2m, Nakajima Ki-43, Kawanishi N1K. 

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i'm nitpicking here but...

 

P-61 and XP-58 are very similar, but yes, i would like to see that

 

F-82 Mustang does exist in game, just not on the NA server YET

 

P-39 and P-63 are very similar

 

put the 4 x 20mm on the F-94D and that is very close to the P-80

 

Ki-43-Lc is practically the same exact plane except it's more maneuverable and only has 2 x .50 cal not 2x 20mm cannon'

 

Vampire would be too high a tier MAYBE

 

He 162; historically the plane sucked due to stabilization issues

 


Edited by CS_Storms, 05 May 2016 - 08:37 PM.


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View PostCS_Storms, on 05 May 2016 - 03:37 PM, said:

He 162; historically the plane sucked due to stabilization issues

 

 

Actually since WG created CSP the stabilization issues disappeared. It is not produced due to lack of population. 

Historically speaking of course.

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Ki-43-Lc is premium Chinese. It's like premium Russian P-40, it's completely different from US P-40. Same thing with P-39.

De Havilland Vampire is not too high tier. Mitsubishi J4M looks like it and it's not even was build. There was even an upgraded Vampire called de Havilland Venom.

 


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View Postegikov, on 05 May 2016 - 08:55 PM, said:

Ki-43-Lc is premium Chinese. It's like premium Russian P-40, it's completely different from US P-40. Same thing with P-39.

De Havilland Vampire is not too high tier. Mitsubishi J4M looks like it and it's not even was build. There was even an upgraded Vampire called de Havilland Venom.

 

 

just because it looks like it has... no relevance

egikov #6 Posted 05 May 2016 - 09:07 PM

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About He 162 from Wikipedia:

"The difficulties experienced by the He 162 were caused mainly by its rush into production, not by any inherent design flaws.[13] One experienced Luftwaffe pilot who flew it called it a "first-class combat aircraft." This opinion was mirrored by Eric "Winkle" Brown of the Fleet Air Arm (FAA), who flew it not only during post-war evaluations, but went on to fly it for fun after testing had completed. He considered it delightful to fly, although the very light controls made it suitable only for experienced pilots. He wrote about his He 162A flights in Wings of the Luftwaffe, a description that has been reprinted in many media over the years."



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View PostCS_Storms, on 05 May 2016 - 03:37 PM, said:

i'm nitpicking here but...

 

P-61 and XP-58 are very similar, but yes, i would like to see that

 

F-82 Mustang does exist in game, just not on the NA server YET

 

P-39 and P-63 are very similar

 

put the 4 x 20mm on the F-94D and that is very close to the P-80

 

Ki-43-Lc is practically the same exact plane except it's more maneuverable and only has 2 x .50 cal not 2x 20mm cannon'

 

Vampire would be too high a tier MAYBE

 

He 162; historically the plane sucked due to stabilization issues

 

Actually, the P 80 was armed with 6x .50cals.


 

 


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View Postegikov, on 05 May 2016 - 12:55 PM, said:

Ki-43-Lc is premium Chinese. It's like premium Russian P-40, it's completely different from US P-40. Same thing with P-39.

De Havilland Vampire is not too high tier. Mitsubishi J4M looks like it and it's not even was build. There was even an upgraded Vampire called de Havilland Venom.

 

 

I agree about the Vampire - according to Wikipedia, it first flew in 1945, so it belongs in the game. It was the RAF's second jet after the Meteor.


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ninja'd on the P-80 thing.

 

P61 and XP58 were similar in that they were both hvy fighter, but way different in most every other way, the P-61 had one of the best roll rates of all aircraft in WW2.

 

P-63 was a development of the P 39, superior in every way, but not as good as other choices that were in production late in the war.

 

Reality has nothing to do with WG, many of the aircraft in the game never passed flight trials for one reason or another and they are in the game. The He-162 looks way cool, therefore, in the game.

 

We have the F4F, 2 actually, but whatever, we need the F6F, F8F, F9F Cougar and Panther (I forget which came first). Gee, we have most of a tech tree just in Grumman aircraft.


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View PostJyarbro28, on 05 May 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

ninja'd on the P-80 thing.

 

P61 and XP58 were similar in that they were both hvy fighter, but way different in most every other way, the P-61 had one of the best roll rates of all aircraft in WW2.

 

P-63 was a development of the P 39, superior in every way, but not as good as other choices that were in production late in the war.

 

Reality has nothing to do with WG, many of the aircraft in the game never passed flight trials for one reason or another and they are in the game. The He-162 looks way cool, therefore, in the game.

 

We have the F4F, 2 actually, but whatever, we need the F6F, F8F, F9F Cougar and Panther (I forget which came first). Gee, we have most of a tech tree just in Grumman aircraft.

Panther(Straight wings) then Cougar(Swept wings). Sorry about the ninja.


 

 


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View Post20thCenturyLtd, on 05 May 2016 - 09:08 PM, said:

Actually, the P 80 was armed with 6x .50cals.

 

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View PostCS_Storms, on 05 May 2016 - 01:04 PM, said:

 

just because it looks like it has... no relevance

Echoing what Donnchadh said about the Vampire.

 

The de Havilland Vampire was built before the F-86, the first Mk1 production aircraft flew two years before the F-86 prototype the XP-86 did.

So it would fill the British light fighter slot at tier 8 or 9, or the MRF slot at tier 9.

 

My contribution to the missing planes list.

The Hawker Hurricane Mk I and II

The 'cane Mk I should be in the UK tier 4 fighter, the Hurricane II should be in fighter Tier 5 while the FB model (Hurricane MkIIC, 4x20mm and a bomb rack) should be in Tier 5 MRF replacing the Hurricane IID which in turn can be moved to a UK GA line.

 

 

 

 


Edited by Pogo68, 06 May 2016 - 02:13 AM.

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Carronade32 #13 Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:06 PM

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How about the plane that "became renowned during the Battle of Britain, accounting for 60% of the RAF's air victories in the battle, and served in all the major theatres of the Second World War."?  *

 

 

*Wikipedia

 

 

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 

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View PostPogo68, on 05 May 2016 - 09:55 PM, said:

Echoing what Donnchadh said about the Vampire.

 

The de Havilland Vampire was built before the F-86, the first Mk1 production aircraft flew two years before the F-86 prototype the XP-86 did.

So it would fill the British light fighter slot at tier 8 or 9, or the MRF slot at tier 9.

 

ok, but just because it LOOKS like another plane means nothing

 



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View Post20thCenturyLtd, on 05 May 2016 - 03:08 PM, said:

Actually, the P 80 was armed with 6x .50cals.

 

and it is in the game and was just given out to super testers recently.  I'm excited for it.

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How about the Heinkel He-219 Uhu or the Dornier Do-335? Those actually flew in combat. Did I hear an Italian line?

egikov #17 Posted 06 May 2016 - 03:01 AM

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View Postraulv04, on 05 May 2016 - 06:30 PM, said:

How about the Heinkel He-219 Uhu or the Dornier Do-335? Those actually flew in combat. Did I hear an Italian line?

 

I did write about He-219, it should be in the game. The speed and service ceiling is not as good as Me 410, but armament is a lot better and maneuverability should be better also.

Dornier Do-335 would be nice. And yes there were some Italian planes, and some French. But I don't think they were famous.



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I also would like to add to the list I-185. It was a Soviet fighter, that was better than La-5 at the time, and some say better than La-7. We have I-180-3 gift plane, I-185 is the successor of that plane.

Another plane that would be good in the game is Su-6. It was a competitor to Soviet IL-2. Su-6 was supposed to use the same engine as I-185.


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Fokker D.XXI would be nice too.




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