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Psicko23 #1 Posted 17 August 2015 - 08:47 PM

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     I was watching the twitch replay of Bandet and the joysick looked fun. I bought a logitech pro 3d. For those that have switched to joysick,  how long did it take to get competent with it?

 



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Welcome to the joystick master race lol.

 

I started with joystick from day one hehe.

 

Have you ever played any other flight sim before with a joystick? If you have the transition should be a matter of weeks. The biggest thing is snap to target and the small camera window on your bottom left plus target switching become your biggest friends

 

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Psicko23 #3 Posted 17 August 2015 - 09:04 PM

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Thanks fast attack. I haven't used a joystick since the mid 90's. It's been awhile. I've been getting disoriented with the snap to target, gotta work on it. When I used the mouse I would utilize the small camera view for the enemies and switch targets alot. I'm starting to be able to take out planes with guns. I'm sticking to lower tiers and working my way back up. So far most of my kills have been with rockets. 

 



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View PostPsicko23, on 17 August 2015 - 08:47 PM, said:

     I was watching the twitch replay of Bandet and the joysick looked fun. I bought a logitech pro 3d. For those that have switched to joysick,  how long did it take to get competent with it?

 

 

about 3 days (about 2 hrs a day) of practice was very difficult for me

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Tonzzo #5 Posted 17 August 2015 - 09:22 PM

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You guys will never learn.....  Trackball is OP!  :trollface:

 



 


Chuck_norris10 #6 Posted 17 August 2015 - 09:31 PM

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I have always used a joystick,don't know how you guys do it with a mouse or trackball.

Duct tape works wonders to keep things from flying off your desk in a dogfight.

I tweaked my settings lots to soften up the sensitivity but for the last few patches I have been running it at default except for the throttle.I use the W button for boost instead of the throttle on the stick,got it mapped out at 100% because sometimes it's hard to not hit boost on default throttle settings.

It should not take long for you get your groove.

Become one with the stick......make it a part of you.

And if it helps any,just use the stick for controlling the plane and throttle,use the keyboard for rockets,bombs,bombsight and all that for a bit.

 


 

 


 

SkyWolf__WM #7 Posted 17 August 2015 - 09:37 PM

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I'll let you know when I do it.

 


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SHOCKOJAMBO #8 Posted 17 August 2015 - 09:46 PM

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One week



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View PostSHOCKOJAMBO, on 17 August 2015 - 02:46 PM, said:

One week

 

Everyones different with the hand eye coordination though.

The only thing I have ever flown in RL with a stick is a Bell longranger when the pilot gave me the collective for a bit but no rudders.

It's like flying with a 3d. Vewy vewy touchy though.:ohmy:


Edited by Chuck_norris10, 17 August 2015 - 09:52 PM.

 

 


 

mnbv_fockewulfe #10 Posted 17 August 2015 - 10:28 PM

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I've tried the joystick, but it just doesn't handle enough like a real plane, i.e. turning when you bank and some other behavior issues.

Yes I've flown a real plane. (Cesna 172 to be exact. I want a licenses sooo bad.)

I have a Logitech 3d attack pro and messed around with the settings a little bit and key mapping but I haven't gotten to perfection yet. ;) I keep trying it every once and a while.


Edited by mnbv_fockewulfe, 17 August 2015 - 10:29 PM.

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Psicko23 #11 Posted 17 August 2015 - 11:45 PM

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Thanks for the help. 

 

Mnbv, I haven't felt the plane turn when I bank. Maybe your settings affect that? Not sure. I flew a plane along time ago for a few minutes in the air, but it didn't have a stick,  it was more like a steering wheel. Forgive my lack of knowledge of the proper terminology.  So to me, I have no real experience of flying planes. 



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View PostPsicko23, on 17 August 2015 - 05:47 PM, said:

     I was watching the twitch replay of Bandet and the joysick looked fun. I bought a logitech pro 3d. For those that have switched to joysick,  how long did it take to get competent with it?

 

 

I started with joystick, but at the end of beta I changed to mouse, and I was playing with mouse untill 1.2. Than I came back to joystic untill 1.6, than I went back to mouse, and I now Im playng joystick again since 1.8, about 2 months.

 

I don't have a decent joystick and ping, and I play from notebook. I think the most dificult part for joystick players is the ping, and the second one is to stay oriented without the camera fixed on horizon.

 

For dogfight I play with joystick and just it, for ground attacking usually I play with mouse, but sometimes I change it during battle to joystick to dogfight better.

 

I think if u know what u r doing using mouse, so change to joystcik will be easy for you. Just a couple days.

 

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Psicko23 #13 Posted 18 August 2015 - 12:02 AM

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Thanks mack.

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In about three days I could play better with that logitech 3d pro than I could with a mouse.  I think you need to tweak the default joystick settings though.  I seemed to crash alot with the mouse but that doesn't happen as much with the joystick.  It does seem to be a bit harder to hit a target when using the joystick.  So basically you can control your plane better but it is harder to hit a target in my opinion.

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View PostCapt_Candyazz, on 17 August 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

In about three days I could play better with that logitech 3d pro than I could with a mouse.  I think you need to tweak the default joystick settings though.  I seemed to crash alot with the mouse but that doesn't happen as much with the joystick.  It does seem to be a bit harder to hit a target when using the joystick.  So basically you can control your plane better but it is harder to hit a target in my opinion.

 

Head 2 Head is harder.. but hit while dogfighting is better with joystick.

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Psicko23 #16 Posted 18 August 2015 - 02:25 AM

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The joystick seems pretty twitchy. Is there a way to turn down the sensitivity? 

  I'm doing better, but it still takes me longer to kill planes,  and hitting gt's is downright scary. 



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I bought the same 3D PRO joystick and my gameplay improved 100% right from the first match. So much more intuitive for me than keyboard/mouse or gamepad options.

Psicko23 #18 Posted 18 August 2015 - 03:00 AM

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I can see that, however I have played 10650 or so battles with a mouse and keyboard. It's getting better,  just can't seem to stay on target as well and kill them faster. Other than that I'm doing well and like it so far. 

md4dodge #19 Posted 18 August 2015 - 11:36 AM

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Welcome to the family of joystick pilot's! :honoring:

I started playing this game with kb/mouse, and had more than 10,000 battles before I started using a joystick.  The transition wasn't that bad for me because I had played games with a joystick in the past and was familiar with the feel.  I first started with the Extreme 3D Pro, like most others, and found it fairly easy to get used to (maybe 10-20 battles). After a little research and a lot of luck (and a clan commander with a big heart), I obtained a Saitek X52 H.O.T.A.S.  I will never go back!!   I feel like I have complete control over the aircraft and it's smooth as butter. 

The targeting issue you are having is because of your sensitivity curve.  It's hard to find that sweet spot at first, but try editing your "curve" to look like an "S".    Play with it until you find your comfort zone. (I recommend bot battles for a bit).   It might also help to tweak your deadzones.   As FastAttack said, the hardest part to get used to is using snap to target, but it's necessary to keep track of the plane you're targeting.  

I'm willing to offer any assistance if you need it.  PM me any time.

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View PostPsicko23, on 17 August 2015 - 07:25 PM, said:

The joystick seems pretty twitchy. Is there a way to turn down the sensitivity? 

  I'm doing better, but it still takes me longer to kill planes,  and hitting gt's is downright scary. 

 

I'll see if I can find the old topic with screenshots of settings.It gives you a good idea on where to start.

 

 


 




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