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veganzombiez #1 Posted 04 August 2015 - 06:01 PM

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Hey guys,

 

As the start of the Air Raid 6 tournament draws closer, GhostPrime has asked me to assist with the administration. After reviewing the rules with Ghost, Killer, and Marco, we feel that you guys deserve some more prizing, so I poked around a bit to find what I could find.  Here's the updated prizing we're giving out:

 

Place

Gold / Player

Max Players

Total Gold

1

5000

8

40000

2

3200

8

25600

3-4

2000

8

32000

5-8

1250

8

40000

9-16

750

8

48000

-- --

128

185600

 

Tournament registration rules are on Page 3 here.

 

View PostKillerpopcorn, on 04 August 2015 - 10:26 AM, said:

Remember you guys that want to sign up only need 5 players minimum to make a team.

 



dityboycom #2 Posted 04 August 2015 - 06:05 PM

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View Postveganzombiez, on 04 August 2015 - 02:01 PM, said:

Hey guys,

 

As the start of the Air Raid 6 tournament draws closer, GhostPrime has asked me to assist with the administration. After reviewing the rules with Ghost, Killer, and Marco, we feel that you guys deserve some more prizing, so I poked around a bit to find what I could find.  Here's the updated prizing we're giving out:

 

Place

Gold / Player

Max Players

Total Gold

1

5000

8

40000

2

3200

8

25600

3-4

2000

8

32000

5-8

1250

8

40000

9-16

750

8

48000

-- --

128

185600

 

Tournament registration rules are on Page 3 here.

 

I'd give ya +1's but I'm all out of my magical like quota.

 

This should make a lot of players happy, and spike interest!

Remember folks, these pay out are per person, not per team.

 

So

1st place team gets 5000 gold per person

2nd place team gets 3200 gold per person

 


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Tonzzo #3 Posted 04 August 2015 - 06:19 PM

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This may actually get more than 128 players to take part.....  This may almost double the population!!!!

 



 


broslicer #4 Posted 04 August 2015 - 06:22 PM

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dang 16 places???? THAT'S AWESOME! wow bravo vegan bravo.:honoring:

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Killerpopcorn #5 Posted 04 August 2015 - 06:26 PM

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Remember you guys that want to sign up only need 5 players minimum to make a team.

Air Raid #1: 4th place/Air Raid #2 3rd Place/Air Raid #4 2nd Place/Air Raid #5 9th place

Crossover #1 1st Place/ Launch Event 1st place


Vyacheslav #6 Posted 04 August 2015 - 09:52 PM

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For this much gold.....I could use a team....lol!

losttwo #7 Posted 04 August 2015 - 09:57 PM

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Dityboy I gave a +1 so you could use it....maybe others will donate their +1 to you as well.

SystemRename_999888 #8 Posted 05 August 2015 - 06:14 AM

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Once again: this is still pitiful relative to what you give out even in a weekly tournament in WoT.

 

 

 

This is literally the first tournament that's been held in this game in nearly a YEAR.


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BOT_ROCKET #9 Posted 05 August 2015 - 07:58 AM

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macfloam #10 Posted 05 August 2015 - 08:25 PM

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Thanks for the improved prize structure. However, unless you want to do a strength of competition calculation, you won't get such nicely defined groupings because it's a double elimination format, not single. Here's the results you will get based on the number of entries:

 

  8 Teams 16 Teams 32 Teams 64 Teams
1st 5,000 (1) 5,000 (1) 5,000 (1) 5,000 (1)
2nd 3,200 (1) 3,200 (1) 3,200 (1) 3,200 (1)
3rd 2,000 (1) 2,000 (1) 2,000 (1)3 2,000 (1)3
1st Round 1,250 (2) 750 (4)2 0 (8) 0 (16)
2nd Round 1,625 (2)1

750 (4)2

0 (8) 0 (16)
3rd Round   1,250 (3) 750 (6) 0 (12)
4th Round   1,625 (2)1 1,000 (4)4 562 (8)5
5th Round     1,250 (2) 1,000 (4)4
6th Round     2,000 (1)3 1,250 (2)
7th Round       2,000 (1)3
TOTAL 127,600 185,600 185,600 185,600

Red text denotes a weighted average calculation based on your initial prize structure.

Blue text denotes the same payout for teams that got knocked out at different stages.

 

1 These are positions 4-5. According to  your prize structure, 4th should get 2,000 and 5th should receive 1,250, but there's no way to tell who is in 4th without a strength of competition calculation. In the above table, I listed the weighted average of those 2 payouts. (i.e. [2,000*1 + 1,250*1] / 2 = 1,625). 

2 These positions are receiving the same prize even though 4 of them ended with a record of 1 win 2 losses while the bottom 4 ended with 0 wins 2 losses. How about 900 for those knocked out in the 2nd round and 600 for those knocked out in the first?

3 3rd & 4th receive the same payout even though 3rd place made it 1 stage deeper into the tournament. How about 2,250 for 3rd and 1,750 for 4th (same total rewards, but gives more to the team that makes it further)?

4 Weighted average of 2 x 1,250 & 2 x 750. 

5 Weighted average of 6 x 750 & 2 x 0. 



Killerpopcorn #11 Posted 06 August 2015 - 02:12 AM

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Since a change in prize payouts has been done adding 4th-16th, rankings below 1st and 2nd will be determined based on total wins.

Air Raid #1: 4th place/Air Raid #2 3rd Place/Air Raid #4 2nd Place/Air Raid #5 9th place

Crossover #1 1st Place/ Launch Event 1st place


macfloam #12 Posted 06 August 2015 - 03:04 AM

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View PostKillerpopcorn, on 06 August 2015 - 02:12 AM, said:

Since a change in prize payouts has been done adding 4th-16th, rankings below 1st and 2nd will be determined based on total wins.

 

Unless challonge.com is using some strange system, total wins will be identical for all teams knocked out at each stage, which creates the same problem. 

 

Or are you talking about individual battles? So a team that loses 4-2 and 4-1 would finish higher than a team that loses 4-0 and 4-1?



Killerpopcorn #13 Posted 06 August 2015 - 04:05 AM

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Best of 7 so each win is tallyed up 4 at the most per battle. If we end up having a tie we can do a battle if it is a break between prize amounts.

Air Raid #1: 4th place/Air Raid #2 3rd Place/Air Raid #4 2nd Place/Air Raid #5 9th place

Crossover #1 1st Place/ Launch Event 1st place


Killerpopcorn #14 Posted 06 August 2015 - 04:07 AM

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I thought about total kills as another from of tie breaking but would need everyone to send in screenshots of each battle round.

Air Raid #1: 4th place/Air Raid #2 3rd Place/Air Raid #4 2nd Place/Air Raid #5 9th place

Crossover #1 1st Place/ Launch Event 1st place


GeorgePatton #15 Posted 06 August 2015 - 05:12 PM

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MARS_REVENANT #16 Posted 07 August 2015 - 01:56 AM

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View Postveganzombiez, on 04 August 2015 - 01:01 PM, said:

Hey guys,

 

As the start of the Air Raid 6 tournament draws closer, GhostPrime has asked me to assist with the administration. After reviewing the rules with Ghost, Killer, and Marco, we feel that you guys deserve some more prizing, so I poked around a bit to find what I could find.  Here's the updated prizing we're giving out:

 

Place

Gold / Player

Max Players

Total Gold

1

5000

8

40000

2

3200

8

25600

3-4

2000

8

32000

5-8

1250

8

40000

9-16

750

8

48000

-- --

128

185600

 

Tournament registration rules are on Page 3 here.

 

 

 

Thanks Vegan, an update to the rules showing the new prizing as well as how ties will be decided will be posted shortly.

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dityboycom #17 Posted 07 August 2015 - 02:32 PM

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How can there be ties?

 

There are 16 top spots, which only the top 3 really matter and are simple to identify

 

Winner

Loser

Loser to the loser

 

The rest fall in to line with no ties.


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Killerpopcorn #18 Posted 07 August 2015 - 02:54 PM

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say 2 teams lose 3-4 in the first round then both lose 2-4 in the second, now they are both 5-8 and out of the tournament but still tied.

Air Raid #1: 4th place/Air Raid #2 3rd Place/Air Raid #4 2nd Place/Air Raid #5 9th place

Crossover #1 1st Place/ Launch Event 1st place


dityboycom #19 Posted 07 August 2015 - 03:06 PM

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View PostKillerpopcorn, on 07 August 2015 - 10:54 AM, said:

say 2 teams lose 3-4 in the first round then both lose 2-4 in the second, now they are both 5-8 and out of the tournament but still tied.

 

Sure but the payout is the same, so why does it matter? The only bracket that matters for prizing here is the losers bracket, as everyone but the finalist will have to stop by the losers bracket before the finals. So where you place in the loser bracket if you didn't place in the top 3 is all that matters.

Edited by dityboycom, 07 August 2015 - 03:07 PM.

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GouIdy #20 Posted 07 August 2015 - 04:01 PM

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the only issue would be if there is a tie between 4th & 5th or 8th & 9th maybe just average the payout between the two.

 

So a tie for 4th would pay 1625/each player & a tie for 8th would be 1000/each player.


Edited by The_Original_Gouldy, 07 August 2015 - 04:05 PM.





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