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[spoiler] what the British tech tree could look like

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J311yfish #41 Posted 21 November 2015 - 03:17 PM

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Aircraft of the Indian Air Force

 

Induction date -- Aircraft -- Role

04/1933 -- Westland Wapiti -- Recon & Army Co-op

__/1940 -- Hawker Hart -- Recon & Army Co-op

__/1940 -- Hawker Audax -- Coastal Defense

03/1941 -- Atlanta Transport & De Havilland DH.98 Dragon Rapide -- Coastal Recon & Defense

__/____ -- De Havilland DH.82 Tiger Moth -- Trainer

08/1941 -- Westland Lysander -- Recon

01/1942 -- Bristol Blenheim -- recon & Coastal Defense

06/1942 -- Hawker Hurricane II B

03/1942 -- Harvard I & II -- Trainer

02/1943 -- Vultee Vengeance I -- Dive Bomber

03/1944 -- Vultee Vengeance III -- Dive Bomber

10/1944 -- Supermarine Spitfire VIII -- Fighter

__/1944 -- Hawker Hurricane II -- Recon & Army Co-op -- (No 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10 Squadrons)

__/1944 -- Supermarine Spitfire VIII -- Fighter -- (No 8 Squadron)

 

Growth of the IAF

1933 -- half squadron

1936 -- 1 squadron

1940 -- 3 squadrons

1941 -- 5 squadrons

1942 -- 6 squadrons

1943 -- 7 squadrons

1944 -- >9 squadrons

 

Source:  Indian Air Force in Wars (Kindle Edition), by Air Vice Marshal Arun Kumar Tiwary (2013 Lancer)


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PzrCanuck #44 Posted 30 June 2017 - 03:53 PM

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nice presentation, wishful thinking , though

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J311yfish #45 Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:27 PM

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Much revision on the way with excellent new sources:

 

-- The British Fighter Since 1912, by Peter Lewis (1979 Putnam) --> The existing tree and premiums will be substantiated with historical context. 

-- Hawker Aircraft Since 1920​, by Francis K Mason (1991 Putnam) --> Then the Hawker line will be clearly identified down to a module level. 

-- Fairey Aircraft Since 1915, by H.A. Taylor (1988 Putnam) --> Then the aircraft progression of the Fleet Air Arm will be clearly identified.


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jack_wdw #46 Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:14 PM

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Can't believe the british have such a small tree.
There are so many british planes that deserve a spot in this game.

First of all, give us that hawker tree. Unbelievable that it's not in the game.

Second, erase those two never-weres bristols at Tier III and IV.
Those spots should always been occupied by the Gladiator (III) and the Hurricane MkI (IV).
 

J311yfish #47 Posted 15 September 2017 - 12:19 AM

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View Postjack_wdw, on 14 September 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

First of all, give us that hawker tree. Unbelievable that it's not in the game.

 

I believe that the tech trees have already been constructed, at least on paper, and that the rollout of new lines, and selection of premiums, is both strategic and deliberate.  I believe that the Hawker line (among others), has been deliberately held in reserve -- remember, the introduction of bombers implies also bomber interceptors, and the Hawker Fury was game-changing interceptor for the RAF.  For Japan, there are interceptor lines for both the Army (Ki-44) and the Navy (J2M) that have yet to be introduced as well.

 

View Postjack_wdw, on 14 September 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

Second, erase those two never-weres bristols at Tier III and IV.
Those spots should always been occupied by the Gladiator (III) and the Hurricane MkI (IV).

 

The selection of Bristol 133 and Bristol 146 actually make sense for the line in which they are presented, but no one is going to know that because the text accompanying each airplane is very simplified.

 

For example, the Bristol 133 description:

-- "Underwent trials in the summer of 1934. The first aircraft with retractable landing gear proposed to the Royal Air Force."

 

^ okay, an opportunity to tell an interesting story has been missed.

 

What they could have said, based on the authoritative Putnam narrative (something like):

-- "A private venture prototype considered to be the most advanced of those designs submitted for Specification F.7/30.  However, the single prototype crashed 03/08/1935, leaving Bristol without an entry in the competition, and the contract was ultimately awarded to the Gloster Gladiator."

 

The Bristol 146 description:

-- "Went through trials in 1938 as a new fighter for the Royal Air Force, but was considered inferior to the Hawker Hurricane and Supermarine Spitfire.​"

 

^ again, a missed opportunity.

 

What they could have said, based on the authoritative Putnam narrative (something like):

-- "Though eclipsed by the development of Hurricane and Spitfire, the Bristol 146 featured a sliding bubble canopy that was to be adopted almost universally by fighters for some years afterwards."


Edited by J311yfish, 15 September 2017 - 12:23 AM.

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