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J311yfish #1 Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:06 AM

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J311yfish #2 Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:07 AM

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Tier I

 

Gloster/VL Kukko ("Gamecock") (1928)

 

 

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J311yfish #3 Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:07 AM

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Tier II 

 

Bristol Bulldog (delivered by early 1935) -- reference: Bristol Bulldog (II)

 

Polikarpov I-15bis-- reference: I-15 (II)

 

Fokker C.X (~1934-1958)

 

 

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J311yfish #4 Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:08 AM

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Tier III

 

Gloster Gladiator II (delivered 12/1939+)

 

Fokker/V.L. D.XXI (1937/1940+) 

 

Polikarpov I-153 (captured 1939-1940) -- reference: I-15 (II), I-16 (III / IV)

 

Dornier Do 22 (09/1941)

 

Fokker G.I (ordered 1940)

 

 

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J311yfish #5 Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:08 AM

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Tier IV

 

Brewster B-239 Buffalo (02/1940) -- reference: F2A Buffalo (IV)

 

Curtiss Hawk 75A (06/1941+) -- reference: Hawk 75M (III), P-36 (IV)

 

Morane-Saulnier MS.406/410 (12/1939+)

 

Polikarpov I-16 (captured 03/1942) -- reference: I-16 (III / IV)

 

Bristol/VL Blenheim (1936+) -- reference: Blenheim F (IV)

 

 

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Tier V

 

V.L. Myrsky ("Storm") (1943) -- reference: CAC CA-12 Boomerang (V), ​FFVS J 22 (Sweden)

 

Mörkö-Moraani (1943)

 

LaGG-3 (captured 1942) -- reference: LaGG-3 (V)

 

Petlyakov Pe-2/3 (purchased/captured 1941+)

 


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Tier VI

 

V.L. Pyörremyrsky ("Whirlwind") (1944+)

 

Focke-Wulf Fw 190A-6 / Fw 190F-8 (06/1944) -- reference: Fw 190 A-5 (VI)

 

Valmet Vihuri ("Squall") -- (1946+) investigate ​-- reference: Mosquito (VI), Mosquito FB 26 (VI)

 

 

Alternate

 


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Tier VII

 

Messerschmitt Bf 109G (03/1943-1954) -- reference: Bf 109 G (VII)

 


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J311yfish #9 Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:11 AM

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Tier VIII

 

De Havilland Vampire FB.52 (delivered 1953)

 

 


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Tier IX and X

 

Folland Gnat   (first flight 08/1954, delivered 07/1958)

 

 

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Couple of problems which could make this impossible: WG will never accept the blue swastika roundel, Nazi or not. And China is the better choice when it comes to money. But between a Chinese or Finnish tech tree, I'd choose the latter. The Finns have better aircraft variety (Italian, American, French, British, German, Soviet etc). And I can't refuse another Buffalo variant, or "Sky Pearl" as it was nicknamed. =)


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The G.50 is a bit too fast at tier III since it had a maximum speed of about 470 km/h, 20 km/h more than any tier III elite currently available. Moreover it won't be that different from the Italian counterpart

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View PostWolcott, on 02 July 2014 - 02:32 AM, said:

Couple of problems which could make this impossible: WG will never accept the blue swastika roundel, Nazi or not. And China is the better choice when it comes to money. But between a Chinese or Finnish tech tree, I'd choose the latter. The Finns have better aircraft variety (Italian, American, French, British, German, Soviet etc). And I can't refuse another Buffalo variant, or "Sky Pearl" as it was nicknamed. =)

 

Definitely variety!  I can already tell it is going to be tricky.  For the roundels, I will try to photoshop them to the 1946 (non-swastika) version, or else leave them blank.

 

1946 roundel

 

 

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<(-_-)7 J311yfish. I hate flying against you. I love flying with you. But I really love the tech trees that you make. 

 

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The G.50 is a bit too fast at tier III since it had a maximum speed of about 470 km/h, 20 km/h more than any tier III elite currently available. Moreover it won't be that different from the Italian counterpart

 

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View PostJ311yfish, on 02 July 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:

 

Definitely variety!  I can already tell it is going to be tricky.  For the roundels, I will try to photoshop them to the 1946 (non-swastika) version, or else leave them blank.

 

1946 roundel

 

 

 

Thanks! o7

 

 

You've got an eagle eye!  Updated, thanks!

Well i have the Italian planes covered so it was easy to spot :). You're welcome anyway!



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View PostJ311yfish, on 02 July 2014 - 07:46 PM, said:

 

Definitely variety!  I can already tell it is going to be tricky.  For the roundels, I will try to photoshop them to the 1946 (non-swastika) version, or else leave them blank.

 

1946 roundel

 

 

You could try putting a disclaimer in your post. I did that with another game and the mods said it was acceptable so long as it was for historical purposes.

 

Btw, the Buffalo is American, not UK. Might wanna add the B-239 designation in the middle so that viewers will not assume it's just another copy/paste aircraft. =)


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View PostWolcott, on 02 July 2014 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

You could try putting a disclaimer in your post. I did that with another game and the mods said it was acceptable so long as it was for historical purposes.

 

Btw, the Buffalo is American, not UK. Might wanna add the B-239 designation in the middle so that viewers will not assume it's just another copy/paste aircraft. =)

 

Good point, will try that first.  Everything hidden in spoiler tags too.

 

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Wolcott #18 Posted 02 July 2014 - 03:09 PM

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Any room for captured aircraft like the I-153 and Pe-3?

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View PostWolcott, on 02 July 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

Any room for captured aircraft like the I-153 and Pe-3?

 

I am still early in this, but it looks like a line of captured/refurbished Soviet fighters might be possible leading up to Mörkö-Morane, an adaptation of MS.406 that relied on Soviet engines/armament.  It would certainly explain where the technology comes from, rather than just having it appear.  Mörkö-Morane so far looks like a Tier V linchpin ... but I won't know for sure until I get dirty with details.


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Wolcott #20 Posted 03 July 2014 - 05:20 AM

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Great idea! The variety is so immense that it's almost as good as an EU tech tree. Pity the G.50 was the only Italian fighter they had.

 

And thanks for the swastika disclaimer. But don't you mean, "They do not share [the same] ideology"? Might also want to make it clear to viewers that to the Finns, the symbol represented good luck (and rightfully so considering they survived three bloody wars, two against the Soviets and one against the Germans), and is in no way affiliated with Nazism.


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