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Navis_Nobilite #1 Posted 28 June 2014 - 09:20 AM

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I'm thinking of finally really starting to grind for one tier 10 Fighter (no ground attack, probably no Heavy unless it's more maneuverable).

 

Just going by gut feeling, I'd love to get an F-86 Sabre. However, then I'd have to go through the Mustang line, which keeps getting nerfed. And I'm kind of worried about American planes usually being underpar compared to other countries.

 

I do like my Corsair a lot, so maybe the F7U Cutlass is a better target plane.

 

Then again, I do very well with my Yak-7 and Lagg-3, and my Fw-190V (i'm not very good with the Messerschmitts though).

 

Ugg. Are any of these planes obviously better or worse than the others? Or is the grind to them worse for one plane than another? I suspect the Russian planes will be relatively easy to grind through, due to company bias.


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The HG III isn't worth getting due to bad muzzle velocity in relation to speed, but the rest are viable choices.

 

Still, if you say that the Yak playstyle is somewhat what you'd like, the Yak-30 and La-15 may deliver. Although it's actually Germany and the US that would get the upper hand due to altitude bands, as they gain more performance by running away to higher altitude while the others would lose performance that way, but it MAY be countered.

 

For BnZ tier 10s that aren't HFs, well, I don't have much a clue. The Swift comes to mind though.


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Navis_Nobilite #3 Posted 28 June 2014 - 10:35 AM

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View PostHeh, on 28 June 2014 - 05:37 AM, said:

The HG III isn't worth getting due to bad muzzle velocity in relation to speed, but the rest are viable choices.

 

 

I'm not seeing an HG III? Was this a typo?



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He meant the 262 HG III. Not recommended for the reasons above (though the bugger is incredibly fast and climbs like its starting the German space program).

 

For fighters, the La-15 and Yak-30 are both good choices from the Russian line. The P.1101 German fighter is also a nice choice, and the British Swift I hear is, well, swift.

 

If you're going to get a Tier X heavy, shoot for the British Javelin or the American XF-90.


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View Postdanbuter, on 28 June 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

I'm thinking of finally really starting to grind for one tier 10 Fighter (no ground attack, probably no Heavy unless it's more maneuverable).

 

View PostHeh, on 28 June 2014 - 09:37 AM, said:

The HG III

 

He isn't looking for HF, but Fw 252 uses the same gun.

 

For most lines, tier 9 is like a preview to the tier 10 as they usually get the same top tier armament and slightly inferior engine. Russian bias is less profound here due to the altitude nonsense...but Ilyushin being the only GA line (plus that they are very effective planes, at that) may contribute.

 



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Navis_Nobilite #6 Posted 28 June 2014 - 12:31 PM

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So, if you had to choose between the F86 and the F7U, or the La-15 or Yak-30, which is the best overall plane? Or are they all pretty even?

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its not that one is better, it all depends on how you like to play

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Well, I gave a list of which planes I'm good with in my OP. Which tier 10 fighters match up best with their playstyles?

 

To further clarify, the Fw190V is my best plane in combat. I love that thing. Do the American planes fly similar to it, or the Russians?


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View Postdanbuter, on 28 June 2014 - 09:04 AM, said:

Well, I gave a list of which planes I'm good with in my OP. Which tier 10 fighters match up best with their playstyles?

 

To further clarify, the Fw190V is my best plane in combat. I love that thing. Do the American planes fly similar to it, or the Russians?

 

If you have the patience, continue with your current lines and flesh them all out, finding what you like, BnZ, TnB, mix of both.  Next time there's a test server, invest time there and find out which tier X suits your style.

 

Or roll some dice and assign planes to numbers.

 

Or ask in game every time, "how's that plane dude?"

 

Or go for the yak line...there...made your decision for you.  Because your criteria was fast, not too hard grind, Russians are bias op'd, corsair you like, 190 you're awesome in, do well in yak and lagg, but really want an f-86.

 

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I've heard the F-86 is underpar from those who have it, though I assume thats to do with its firepower (it looks sexy and moves great though). The F7U is pretty badass and I think its one of the more scary 10s to fight, but on paper, it looks like it'd suck at turning (its tier 9 also has a rather high stall speed, which I've found is an easy exploit at times, not sure if this carries to the F7U).

The P.1101 I hear is the best tier 10 so far. But tier 10 being tier 10, the population prevents me from having much of an opinion on that myself. The La-15 puts up a good fight but I'm not sure if at tier 10 its energy and accuracy are still problems. The Yak look like fun and probably is but its low altitude leaves it for a spanking against every other plane there is. The other German tier 10s have bad velocity on their guns, so unless you like pulling a massive lead on your targets, don't bother (their other planes are great though!).

 

The Swift is so bloody fast it can go 1000kph level in its optimum altitude easily with a full boost, Its guns are something to get used to though as well as its complete change in playstyle from spitfires (but the attacker should prepare you for this). The J7W3 has scary as all hell cannons on it but its still a ballon made of rice paper with altitude issues.

As for heavies, avoid the HG3. The javelin has odd wing mounted guns so, like the swift, takes some getting used to. The XP-90 would probably be your best bet there.

I think the whole decision making process is a rather personal/playstyle kind of one really. If you liked all the other planes in the line you want the tier 10 for then you'll love the tier 10 just as much (there are some exceptions, like the HG3s muzzle velocity). You'll also have more fun getting there!



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View Postdanbuter, on 28 June 2014 - 05:31 AM, said:

So, if you had to choose between the F86 and the F7U, or the La-15 or Yak-30, which is the best overall plane? Or are they all pretty even?


F86 - the attacker (tier 9) is better in nearly all respects.

F7U - was a good plane - but also nerfed - it does carry 4 big bombs - so if you want to do dual role - it is a good plane. Used to be the fastest in the sky - now not fast, not greatly maneuverable... but still good. (and fun guns)

LA-15 - not as scary good over others as the 160, but it is as good as the 160. (In other words - not bad just not over powered)

The Yak-30 is a respectable plane - I don't have that one - but have faced it enough times - it is a problem to kill.

 

So - my personal preference of the 4:

 

LA, then maybe Yak, then F7u - sabre only go with if you like the name.


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next time the test server is up get on it and play some of your options. or at least  the lines to see how you like the the road to them.

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I know a lot of people in my circles don't seem to like the Me P.1092, but its a very nice plane and I look forward to the P.1101 when tier X is viable.  Since you dont like the Me line, I would recommend the Yak 15 - Yak 30.  The Yak 30 got an altitude boost which, IMO, makes it better than the La line.

 

The Yak 30 is essentially the Mig 15 in this game.  Those planes are nearly indistinguishable from an appearance point of view, and something tells me WG put more of the Mig 15 flight characteristics in for the Yak 30, since I dont seem to have a problem besting the Sabre.

 

I will warn you though, there are not enough good tier 10 games matched.  MM makes some crazy games at tier 10, and after several nutty matches i've nearly stopped playing tier 10 altogether.


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