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J311yfish #1 Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:03 PM

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Details (scroll down)  //  Engine relationships  //  Production (rough)  //

 

Premiums, alternates, gift planes (tiers approx):

 

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J311yfish #2 Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:03 PM

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Tier I

 

Nieuport-Delage 62 (01/1928)

 


Edited by J311yfish, 25 July 2014 - 04:19 AM.

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J311yfish #3 Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:04 PM

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Tier II

 

Morane-Saulnier MS.225 (1931)

 

Blériot-SPAD S.510 (01/1933) -- [current in-game premium Tier II]

 

Dewoitine D.500 (06/1932)

 

ANF-Mureaux 117 (1931+)

 

 

Omitted

 

 


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J311yfish #4 Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:05 PM

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Tier III

 

Morane-Saulnier MS.405 (08/1935)

 

Blériot-SPAD S.710 (04/1937)

 

Dewoitine D.510 (08/1934)

 

Caudron C.670 Typhon (03/1937)

 


Edited by J311yfish, 16 October 2016 - 09:19 AM.

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J311yfish #5 Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:05 PM

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Tier IV

 

Morane-Saulnier MS.406 (05/1938+)

 

Bloch MB.150 (05/1937)

 

Loire-Nieuport LN 161 (10/1935)

 

Breguet 693 (03/1938+)

 

Potez 631 (04/1936+)

 

Fairey Fantome (06/1935) -- [in-game premium Tier IV United Kingdom]

IV  Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs  925hp  470.0kg

IV  20mm Oerlikon S9 (H)

IV  2x .303 Browning (S)

 

Caudron C.714 (07/1936) -- [current in-game premium Tier IV]

 

Alternates

 


Edited by J311yfish, 16 October 2016 - 11:51 PM.

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J311yfish #6 Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:06 PM

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Tier V

 

Arsenal VG-33 (10/1938)

 

Bloch MB.152 (12/1938)

 

Caudron C.760 (1938+)

 

Dewoitine D.520 (10/1938)

 

Breguet 697 (10/1939)

 

Potez 671 (03/1939)

 

Arsenal-Delanne AD 10C2 -- [currently being tested as Fighter at Tier V]

Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs  860-1010hp ... 550 km/h @ 4500m

 

SNCASE SE.100 (03/1939) -- [currently being tested as a Heavy Fighter at Tier V]

 

 

Alternates


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J311yfish #7 Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:06 PM

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Tier VI

 

Arsenal VG-39 (05/1940)

 

Bloch MB.155 (~04/1940)

 

Bloch MB.700 (~04/1940)

 

Dewoitine D.551 (06/1939)

 

 

Alternates

 


Edited by J311yfish, 15 October 2016 - 02:33 PM.

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J311yfish #8 Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:07 PM

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Tier VII

 

Arsenal VB-10 (07/1945) -- [currently being tested as Heavy Fighter for Tier VII]

 

Bloch MB.157 (03/1942)

 

SNCASE SE.520Z (~09/1942+)

 

Alternates

 

 

 


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J311yfish #9 Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:08 PM

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Tier VIII

 

SNCASO SO.8000 Narval (04/1949)

 

Dassault MD.450 Ouragan (Hurricane) (02/1949+) 

 

SNCASE SE.580 (10/1943++)

 

SNCASE SE.530 Mistral (French modification of De Havilland Vampire) (04/1951)

 

SNCASE SE.201 Aquilon (French development of De Havilland Sea Venom Mk. 20) (10/1952)

 

SNCAC NC.1070/1 (05/1947, 10/1948) -- [currently in-game premium Attack for Tier VIII]

 

Alternates

 

Omitted

 

 


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J311yfish #10 Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:08 PM

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Tier IX:

 

SNCASO SO.6020 Espadon (Swordfish) (11/1948)

 

Dassault Mystere (1949+)

 

SNCASE SE.2410 Grognard I (Grumbler) (04/1950)

 

Breguet Br.961 Vultur (08/1951)

 

Alternates:

 

 

Tier X:

 

SNCASO SO.6021 Espadon (Swordfish)

 

Dassault Super Mystère (03/1955)

 

SNCASE SE.2418 Grognard III (Grumbler)

 

SNCASO SE.4050 Vautour IIA (Vulture) (10/1952)

 

Alternates

 

 

 

 


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This feels somewhat anticlimactic.  Particularly because I wasn't even expecting something interesting, realistic or accurate, just some fan-fic.

Edited by CaptainBluenose, 14 May 2014 - 11:49 PM.

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J311yfish #15 Posted 15 May 2014 - 12:48 AM

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In the absence of a roadmap, the only way to make reasonable predictions about what is likely to make it into the game is to do extensive research yourself.  I am willing to do that.  I expect it will take 2-3 weeks to get the appropriate sources, and another 4 weeks or more to process and formulate a tree based on engine developments.  If you have a source (English or French) that you want me to check out I would be glad to do it.  If there is a particular aircraft that you want me to investigate, I would be glad to do that too.  I enjoy the research and I intend to do a thorough job.  Thank you for your interest.

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View PostTraurig_Yoda, on 15 May 2014 - 02:02 AM, said:

things to consider where the french are concerned and their war history:

 

1940 - France plants trees on both sides of the Champs-Élysées as Germans prefer marching in the shade.



Kiwiav8r #17 Posted 15 May 2014 - 02:45 AM

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I'd have the Dewoitine D.520 at tier 5.

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View PostJ311yfish, on 15 May 2014 - 01:48 AM, said:

In the absence of a roadmap, the only way to make reasonable predictions about what is likely to make it into the game is to do extensive research yourself.  I am willing to do that.  I expect it will take 2-3 weeks to get the appropriate sources, and another 4 weeks or more to process and formulate a tree based on engine developments.  If you have a source (English or French) that you want me to check out I would be glad to do it.  If there is a particular aircraft that you want me to investigate, I would be glad to do that too.  I enjoy the research and I intend to do a thorough job.  Thank you for your interest.


Back in EU one WG employee(French) did something in the past, here's the link.

 

I hope you can do something better :)



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J311yfish #20 Posted 17 May 2014 - 02:51 AM

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Thank you Demon93 for the link.  I will start from there and reverse-engineer.  Here is a rough version of that information in tree form:

 


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