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J311yfish #1 Posted 24 March 2014 - 03:17 PM

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An_Average_Jho #2 Posted 24 March 2014 - 03:20 PM

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I think the Chinese tech tree would be implemented like in WoT. Imported equipment for the low tiers, home-made equipment later.

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This is a new and interesting idea - unlocking the planes via another tree - but I still very much dislike the idea of a cobbled-together Chinese tree. I know it will eventually happen, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it - I'm still disgruntled about the tank tree for that matter. (Though not liking any of their tanks doesn't help there either.)

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Darcel_Jones #4 Posted 24 March 2014 - 06:44 PM

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I like this idea,in WOT some of my fav tanks are the lower teir Chicom versions of the Russian tanks.

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I think there's a Chinese-made MiG-15bis that exists for tier 10.
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J311yfish #6 Posted 05 April 2014 - 03:08 AM

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Tier I

 

Boeing Model 218 (P-12) (~1930; to China by 1932) -- reference: P-12 (I)

 

 


 

 

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Tier II

 

Boeing Model 281 (P-26) (03/1932; to China 1936) -- reference: P-26 (II)

 
Curtiss Hawk II/III
 
Polikarpov I-15 (10/1933; to China 1937+) -- reference: I-15 (II)

 

Northrop Gamma (~1932; to China 02/1934)

 

 


 

 

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Tier III

 

Curtiss Hawk 75M (05/1935; to China 1937+) -- reference: Hawk 75M (III)

 

Curtiss Demon CW-21 (09/1938; to China 1939+)

 

Polikarpov I-16 (12/1933; to China 1937+) -- reference: I-16 (III/IV)

 

Vultee V-11 (09/1935; to China 07/1937+)

 

 

 


 

 

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Tier IV

 

Curtiss Hawk 75A-5

 

Vultee P-66 Vanguard (09/1939; to China 1942+)

 

Polikarpov I-16 (12/1933; to China 1937+) -- reference: I-16 (III/IV)

 

Vultee V-12 (~1939)

 

 


 

 

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Tier V

 

Curtiss P-40 (10/1938+) -- reference: P-40 (V), Tomahawk IIb (V)

 

Zero 3372 (Mitsubishi A6M2) (01/1940; captured by China November 21 1941; refurbished mid 1942) -- reference: A6M2 (V)

 

Kawasaki Ki-61-I (12/1941) -- reference: Ki-61 (VI)

 

Vultee V-12 (~1939)

 

 


 

 

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Tier VI

 

Curtiss P-40N

 

Nakajima Ki-44-II

 

Kawasaki Ki-61-II

 

Ilyushin IL-2m3 (to China 1943+)

 

 

Tier VII

 

North American P-51C/D/K (to China 1943+) -- reference: P-51A (VI), P-51D (VII), P-51H (VIII), P-51K (VII)

 

Lavochkin La-7 (02/1944; to China 1950+) -- reference: La-7 (VII)

 

Yakovlev Yak-9P (1942+; to China 19__) -- reference: Yak-9U (VII)

 

Ilyushin IL-10 (04/1944; to China 1950+) -- reference: IL-10 (VII)

 

 


 

 

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Tier VIII

 

Gloster CXP-102 (05/1947+) -- reference: JL-1A-37 (VIII)

 

Lavochkin La-9 (08/1946; to China 1950) -- reference: La-9 (VIII)

 

Yakovlev Yak-17 (06/1947; to China 1950) -- reference: Yak-15 (VIII)

 

 

Tier IX

 

Gloster CXP-1001 (1946+)

 

Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-9 (04/1946; to China 1950) -- reference: MiG-9 (IX)

 

 

Tier X

 

North American F-86F (10/1947+; to Taiwan 12/1954+) -- reference: F-86A (X)

 

Shenyang J-2 (Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis) (12/1947+; to China 1950) -- reference: MiG-15bis (X)

 

 


 

 

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Wolcott #13 Posted 13 April 2014 - 03:04 PM

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Somehow I don't find this interesting at all. I'm seeing an awful lot of copypaste planes. I never approved of the Chinese Chi Ha, so when the Japanese version came out I was really turned off because the tank already exists.

 

Well I'm honestly disappointed but what the heck, it has always been about the money. As long as they get the markings right then I'm fine with it. Aircraft like the P-51 officially served with the ROC, whereas the PLAAF merely captured them and as such shouldn't count. I would've said the same for the M5A1 Stuart in WoT.


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Nice detailed job! In any case i hope not to see the Chinese tech tree anytime soon since most of the planes you quoted are already present. In any case we have to wait and see what will happen

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Thanks.

 

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View PostJ311yfish, on 17 April 2014 - 08:23 PM, said:

Thanks.

 

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I wonder how the Tomahawk is able to have superior firepower in comparison to the fully upgraded P-40 from the US tree. In any case good work!



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First major update:

-- Soviet Volunteer Group and American Volunteer Group are included; there is no realistic way around that

-- rough tree in place based on engine developments; the Russian aircraft are related to the American by the M25 engine which is a license-built Cyclone

-- Chinese salvage aircraft will be included under the original airframe when possible (Example:  "Zhong 28B" is an adaptation of the I-15bis to use the Hawk III engine)

-- horizontal progression is necessary to take advantage of multiple aircraft with limited module upgrades in the Chinese theater (Example: P-66 --> P-43)

-- Tier 1 remains highly variable due to warlord factions and imports; it will be done towards the end of the project

-- detailed entries for each aircraft are coming soon


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Good work! I'd like to see a new Nation, including Italy and France as well.

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Update:

-- The project is essentially done; Tier 1 variable still needs to be considered closely, that will be done soon.

-- technological progression from ROCAF to PLAAF is not possible, so it is instead a political transition via aircraft of similar roles known to have served both factions.  More on that later.

-- captured Japanese aircraft have been sidelined for several reasons:

--- 1) chronology doesn't fit with the rest of the progression; aircraft captured at the end of the war would be retro-filling earlier tiers, when in reality those aircraft were not actually prominent

--- 2) very difficult to know which variants were actually captured and used; a playable progression would likely have to rely on very detailed research in Chinese, or reasonable fiction, and I'm not going there.

--- 3) cannibalizing the Japanese Army tree wouldn't be wise anyway before it is introduced for the Japanese; more will likely be indicated here once it is revealed there

-- details, notes, implications, coming soon

 


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