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Arthur_Dayne #1 Posted 17 February 2014 - 10:58 PM

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Flight sims on computers have always been joystick based. ALWAYS...if u dont have a joystick u had to keyboard it but u did not receive auto targeting or any other kind of help.

 

tanks and warships will always be keyboard an mouse games..planes will never be that... but herein lies the problem .

 

IF you fly 200-1000 matches with the keyboard and become good at it...you will have auto aim where the computer will do all the aiming for you...allowing very easy kills..that's fine except it turns off joystick users...your AVID flight sim base.....again THIS IS A FLIGHT SIM>> your Simulating flight..

 

WG never intended this to be a joystick game....and they either  have to remove joysticks from the game or Mouse aiming.....and go with joystick as a primary input....the problem is that BRAND SPANKING new fliers....would be better off knowing u have to have a joystick to be good at the game.....RATHER than asking them to try keyboard flight....because after they fly wwith a keyboard...999 out fo 1000 are quitting...I see new names at tier 1 everyday....none of them stick around....NO one flies above tier VI and NEVER WILL.....no one means...not fighting the same exact flight every match

 

WG- I BEG absolutely beg you to PAY people off the street $20 American per hour.....stand on the corner....ask random folks to play your game..Let each play 8 hrs ..tell them they can try joystick anytime they want and keyboard anytime....the fact is NEW players WILL NOT want to fly with keyboard....and if u record their play u will see it is EXTREMELY hard for beginners.....the problem then comes in where WG dumbs it down more and more trying ram the square peg in the round hole...that flight Sims in their eyes will be keyboard games...they give mouse users auto targeting....so that it will be easier for them....now its separate matchmaking in tiers 1 and 2.....your problem is you should embrace the joystick...give IT better aiming......and stop flying the plane for people ....that use keyboard...

 

even worse you have very few that master the keyboard...they get to tier VIII and with mouse aim...and crack shot....they cant miss a target at all....they point and click...dead plane.....this will drive out your avid flight simmer ...the JOYSTICK USER.....everyone who gets to tier 8 or 9 will run into a 262s that with mouse aim cant miss a single shot....and your plane is dead in not even1 second....literally you hear the hits and your dead...insta kill....this mouse aim while intended to help new players... is making skilled players invincible....with computer assisted flying...and auto targeting...they drive out everyone......keyboard play is literally killing the game.....because very few new players stick around to use it.....and the skilled players become invincible with an unfair advantage...driving out frustrated joystick users....if the game doesn't embrace joysticks and shun keyboard and mouse computer assisted flight and aim...it will never grow,.....

 

I myself will never fly again when warships come...because of the mouse auto targeting...and I want to play with a stick.....it ceases to be a game for an avid flight gamer...when you have to use a keyboard.....As it is now you stand to lose 3/4 of the pop on warships beta launch...and the game will be devoid of players except during clan wars..

 

this becuz its way way way to hard to learn to fly with a keyboard and no matter how much you try to make it easier....for new players it will be extremely hard to learn...by then..out of frustration they quit....

 

STOP pushing keyboard and mouse TELL people to buy a joystick...u will NOT grow this game with keyboard and mouse EVER..and again....because of mouse aim..i wont fly any more once I get to warships beta....

 

this game has two warring control methods....1  the joystick an advantage for new players against new players....2 the keyboard/mouse aim an advantage for  the very very few who use it and get good at it...against everyone.

 

without kicking mouse and keyboard assisted play to the curb....and replacing it with just generic mouse and keyboard controls....with no mouse aim...and no assisted flight....and strongly suggesting joystick play...the game will die..no one will fly .except for the times clan wars comes in to take territory

 

I have no problem with any other part of your game..yes I think 30 on 30 is better for this game considering the strength of flights....but im sick of mouse aim....SICK OF IT and I enjoy your game for now... I do "ok"  an average player.....but I cant fly tier VII and up because of mouse aim.....u can deal with it at lower tiers bccuz not everyone is skilled these r just people who join the game today and quit tomorrow cuz keyboard flight is hard....but their tier assisted flight and mouse aim...is a brick wall....

 

feel free to bust on me all you want...im outa here when warships comes....im flying the plane myself...id rather be flying against other people not wargamings assisted controls and aim.



Bubba_Zanetti #2 Posted 17 February 2014 - 10:59 PM

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Give it up dude

 

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Darcel_Jones #3 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:00 PM

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Longest rant on the same subject yet AD,keep at it,maybe they will eventually change the game for you... 

Arthur_Dayne #4 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:03 PM

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View PostBubba_Zanetti, on 17 February 2014 - 10:59 PM, said:

Give it up dude

no worries..i am giving it up....im going to warships because of mouse aim...you say give it up dude..singular..you should use the plural and say give it up you 100 thousands of dudes.. who tried the game and quit.. 1500-1700 peple...that's your game now down from near 2300 or so....yet u have noo solution to this...none of the uber planes...none foo the top tier flying explains why people quit after very few matches..its because this gam takes skill....and a JOYSTICK to keep people here.


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Arthur_Dayne #5 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:04 PM

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View PostDarcel_Jones, on 17 February 2014 - 11:00 PM, said:

Longest rant on the same subject yet AD,keep at it,maybe they will eventually change the game for you... 


they don't have to change the game for me.....im asking they get people off the street and try it....u again have had 100s of thousands try it and quit....instantly..joystick play will aleivate this



dawson112299 #6 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:05 PM

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How am I assisted because I use a mouse ???

  

 

        THERE IS NO I REPEAT    NO    AUTO AIM IN THIS GAME>      

 

 My computer does not do any of the work except for running the game and rendering the graphics...    

 

 



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I find it impossible to disagree with your logic. Fixed your neg. But WG wants the numbers. Insufficent to point out that someone who will not spring for a $25.00 stick will never spend $100.00 on premium. Sad. Inevitable. Solution? Get better than the AI that flies for the mouse people. The ultimate mouse AI will just send a daily email about well you played, and how much fun you had. WG cannot change it at this point. Wulf

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Goodbye Arthur-Dayne

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Im using a keyboard and mouse, and I still play with it because i dont feel like paying money for a joystick when I can play a game just the same with a simple keyboard and mouse.

 



Arthur_Dayne #10 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:24 PM

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View Post209, on 17 February 2014 - 11:09 PM, said:

Goodbye Arthur-Dayne


 look for me...these snide...comments are nice...hey im playin....so those 100s of thousand posiblle into the millions....u just say to them.. 'good bye losers"........... where are they...you can deride me because that's your answer... deride me and trivialize your answer...to keep the truth...WHERE are the players who tried the game......from what it is....and im telling u keyboard play is not easy for new players...and if wargaming surround themselves with YES men...they will only get the same results they have gotten with warplanes..FAILURE



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I'm getting pretty tired of these rants, there is no auto aim for mouse, i have played tons of flight sims and have and still do play them with a joystick. This arcade game (important distinction) doesn't work for me with a joystick (the physics are frustrating for me with one)  but i know for a fact that a large portion of the top 50 on noobmeter use joystick (i know a lot of them). So, i do have trouble with your logic if the best players in the game do well with joystick then how is using the mouse OP?

 

 

If its not so called troll flights then its mouse users... time to take responsibility for your success or failures.

 

i hope that WOWS is more your thing,

 

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Rosebud #12 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:26 PM

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I bought that joystick...I played with that joystick...I returned to the keyboard. I like the keyboard and I believe many more do as well.


 


Arthur_Dayne #13 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:27 PM

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View PostMikeg27, on 17 February 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:

Im using a keyboard and mouse, and I still play with it because i dont feel like paying money for a joystick when I can play a game just the same with a simple keyboard and mouse.

 


and I have to commend u for flying ith keyboard as anew player ....because most players would quit....and im talking from a statiscal standpoint.....you have 326 battles...and you prove exactly what I have been saying about why people quit


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Arthur_Dayne #14 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:28 PM

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View PostRosebud, on 17 February 2014 - 11:26 PM, said:


I bought that joystick...I played with that joystick...I returned to the keyboard. I like the keyboard and I believe many more do as well.

u returned to the keybard because experienced player will find the mouse auto targeting and assisted flight EASIER...but it will tunr off...nd make joystick users quit..once they realize they are fighting half humans half computers...



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View PostDreamer_Y, on 17 February 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

I'm getting pretty tired of these rants, there is no auto aim for mouse, i have played tons of flight sims and have and still do play them with a joystick. This arcade game (important distinction) doesn't work for me with a joystick (the physics are frustrating for me with one)  but i know for a fact that a large portion of the top 50 on noobmeter use joystick (i know a lot of them). So, i do have trouble with your logic if the best players in the game do well with joystick then how is using the mouse OP?

 

 

If its not so called troll flights then its mouse users... time to take responsibility for your success or failures.

 

i hope that WOWS is more your thing,

 

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this what I call deniability of facts.....especialy when it comes to new players....and their longevity....most wont get 100 battles on keyboars before quitting..So dreamer million dollar question...WHY are people quitting at tier I and tier II...and if u think newbie 1.2 matcchmakign is gonna change things I got some ocen front property in Arizona for u........you can talk about my Failures because you don't want to talk about WGs failures...I offer an explaination for this failure and you pile in like a WG yes man and off no other explaination....heres something I KNOW im right...and over time this will simply be a clan wars game....jump in the level 10 plane...fight you clan war  battle...jump back to tanks or warships....thr game needs 30 on 30 playe to reduce flight effects....and it needs joysticks.


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BitterClinger #16 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:37 PM

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Mouse Auto Aim added to my super secret Voice Activation System equals Voice Activated Mouse Auto Aim ®

 

 



CastorBean #17 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:38 PM

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The mouser selects a target. Maybe pretends to fly after it by keeping the mouse on the target, but the "camera" is locked on, so that's easy. Clicks the mouse, while dispersion makes hits inevitable. AI chalks up a victory, while quiet clapping for the alleged pilot. This is not auto-aim, it is auto-fly! I agree that WG cannot get out of the box they created. Fixed a neg, OP, but expect that is how people will argue. A neg is the forum equivalent of auto-aim.

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View PostBitterClinger, on 17 February 2014 - 06:37 PM, said:

Mouse Auto Aim added to my super secret Voice Activation System equals Voice Activated Mouse Auto Aim ®

 

 

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View PostBitterClinger, on 17 February 2014 - 06:37 PM, said:

Mouse Auto Aim added to my super secret Voice Activation System equals Voice Activated Mouse Auto Aim ®

 

 


hey hey pilots , I've looked everywhere for the "voice auto aim" still haven't found it ? Tried to make my own , but I can only target myself?

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Darcel_Jones #20 Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:50 PM

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View PostBitterClinger, on 17 February 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

Mouse Auto Aim added to my super secret Voice Activation System equals Voice Activated Mouse Auto Aim ®

 

 

Second time I have seen this gem,made me laugh as hard as the first.






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