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Quesnel #41 Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:00 PM

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View Postdanbuter, on 04 June 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

Love this thread. I do think it would be better if you gave a recommendation on "Definitely buy/It's ok/Don't buy".

 

The trouble with doing that would be...............here is an example. I rather like my Ki-88, the fun factor in playing something different from the "typical" Japanese plane of the same tier bracket is a nice change. Others may purchase (or, be gifted) one and not find the same level of enjoyment from it, or become frustrated with the playstyle need to be successful with it.



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Aircraft available as of 1.4.0

 

Tier VI Bell P-39Q-15 Airacobra Full price 3550 Gold.

 

In much the same vein as the tier VI F4U-1 is to the tier V XF4U-1, the tier VI Bell P-39 Airacobra is to the tier V XFL-1. Calling the Airacobra an "American Yak" wouldn't be too far from the truth, since the Bell shares a lot of the same characteristics of the Yakovlev Fighters of the same tier.

 

 

Pros:

  • Above average dive speed vs tech tree counterparts (rated at 760. La-5 rated at 670, Yak-1M rated at 700 and Yak 9 rated at 630, with optimal upgrades).
  • Above average operational altitude compared to same tier Soviet Fighters.

Cons:

  • Below average maneuverability and rate of climb (boosted helps, somewhat).
  • 37 mm has a slow rate of fire and short heat cycle.

 

The mounted 12.7 mm AN/M2 (S) is shared with the tier VI North American Mustang Mk.I. The mounted 37 mm T9 (H) is an "up tiered" variant shared with the premium XFL-1.

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/ussr/p-39q/

 

Tier VI North American Mustang Mk.I Full price 3400 Gold.

 

The North American Mustang Mk.I is, for all intents and purposes, the same plane as the tier VI P-51A Mustang, in a pre-upgraded configuration. Much like a comparison between the P-40 and the M-105 Soviet counterpart, the British Mustang has some "slight" differences over it's American model. The Mustang Mk.I gains an edge in better firepower and slightly more speed, while the P-51A gains the maneuverability and altitude advantages (and, this increases with upgrades).

 

Pros:

  • Above average dive speed vs tech tree aircraft of the same nation (rated at 800. Supermarine Spitfire V rated at 720, De Havilland 98 Mosquito rated at 750, both with optimal upgrades).
  • Slightly higher operational altitude then the same tier British Fighter (rated at 1650. Supermarine Spitfire V rated at 1600, with optimal upgrades).

Cons:

  • Slightly below average maneuverability (rated at 274. Supermarine Spitfire V rated at 323, North American P-51A Mustang rated at 286, both with optimal upgrades).
  • Below average climb rate (rated at 15.9. Supermarine Spitfire V rated at 22.3, De Havilland 98 Mosquito rated at 21.5, both with optimal upgrades).
  • All mounted weapons are most effective at short range.

 

The mounted 12.7 mm AN/M2 (S) is shared with the tier VI Bell P-39 Airacobra. The mounted 12.7 mm AN/M2 (W) is shared with the Chance-Vought F4U-1, F4U-4, North American P-51A and P-51D. The mounted 7.62 mm M1919-A4 (W) is shared with the Boeing P-12, Grumman F2F, F3F, Hawk-75, Curtiss P-23 and P-36.

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/gb/mustang-i/

 

Tier VI Supermarine Spitfire V DB 605 Full price 3450 Gold.

 

Comparing the "captured" version against one still in "home service", British Spitfire Mk. V has the advantage of hitpoints, airspeed and maneuverability, but the "Messerfire" gets the firepower and altitude edge. With upgrades, the Spitfire Mk. V will eclipse those advantages.

 

Pros:

  • Above average maneuverability vs tech tree aircraft of the same nation (rated at 320. Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-5 rated at 259, Messerschmitt Bf 109 F Friedrich rated at 303, both with optimal upgrades).
  • Almost equal in operational altitude then the same tier German Fighters (rated at 2000. Better than the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-5 rated at 1750, slightly below the Messerschmitt Bf 109 F Friedrich rated at 2150, both with optimal upgrades).

Cons:

  • Slightly below average climb rate (rated at 18.3. Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-5 rated at 21.2, Messerschmitt Bf 109 F Friedrich rated at 22.7, both with optimal upgrades).
  • Below average firepower (rated at 143. Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-5 rated at 290, Messerschmitt Bf 109 F Friedrich rated at 243, both with maximum armament).

 

The mounted 7.69 mm Browning Mk.II is shared with the Supermarine Spitfire I and V, Bristol 146, Blenheim F and Beaufighter (7.69mm is metric for .303 cal). The mounted 20 mm Hispano Mk.II (W) is shared with the Supermarine Spitfire I, V and IX.

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/germany/spitfire-v-db-605/


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CogKnispel #43 Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:44 PM

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Thank you for this thread. as a limited edition/rare/promo junkie with very little time that's not being a dad, this helps a bunch.

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Quesnel #44 Posted 25 June 2014 - 08:18 PM

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View PostCogKnispel, on 24 June 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Thank you for this thread. as a limited edition/rare/promo junkie with very little time that's not being a dad, this helps a bunch.

thank you

 

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danbuter #45 Posted 26 June 2014 - 05:16 AM

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Here's a list of associated threads that provide owner opinions on the various Premiums. Reading these may help you decide if you want the plane or not.

 

Generalhttp://forum.worldof...wners-opinions/

 

P-40-M105http://forum.worldof...tier-5-premium/

 

P-39 Airacobrahttp://forum.worldof...like-the-plane/

 

Me209Vhttp://forum.worldof...90v-vs-me-209v/

 

Ki-88http://forum.worldof...heavy-fighters/

 

XP-50http://forum.worldof...ic/30707-xp-50/

 

XFL-1 (gift plane that may eventually make it for sale):  http://forum.worldof...o-xfl-1-please/

 

Me-209Vhttp://forum.worldof...rth-picking-up/

 

LBsh vs iL-2(mod)http://forum.worldof...h-should-i-buy/

 

LBsh vs iL-2 (mod) Poll:  http://forum.worldof...-il-2-mod-poll/

 

Best Tier 6 Premiumhttp://forum.worldof...tier-6-premium/

 

5 new Premiums reviewshttp://forum.worldof...-plane-reviews/

 

Ki-88http://forum.worldof...bout-the-ki-88/

 

List and resourceshttp://forum.worldof...e-list-sources/

 

Which Tier 6 Premium to get (poll)http://forum.worldof...-tier-6-to-get/

 

Ki-88 (joke?)http://forum.worldof...ke-of-a-reward/

 

Premiums Relevance?http://forum.worldof...mium-airplanes/

 

Me209V does not stinkhttp://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1

 

Favorite Premium Plane LBSH: http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1

 

Miles M20: http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1

 


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CogKnispel #46 Posted 27 June 2014 - 03:55 PM

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The  Type 224 is still available through the razer site through the 30th of June.

http://www.razerzone...rldofwarplanes/

 

just a heads up.



tigerfuhrer #47 Posted 13 August 2014 - 05:44 PM

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any news on how to get the Ha-137? http://worldofwarpla...germany/ha-137/

Quesnel #48 Posted 13 August 2014 - 06:05 PM

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View Posttigerfuhrer, on 13 August 2014 - 06:44 PM, said:

any news on how to get the Ha-137? http://worldofwarpla...germany/ha-137/

 

Details on just how the Blohm und Voss Ha 137 will be released has not been discussed, yet. Check here, regularly http://worldofwarplanes.com/ for availability through the ingame store, gift shop and/or Missions.



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cool deal, thanks...wasn't sure if i missed the chance

Quesnel #50 Posted 23 August 2014 - 02:41 AM

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Aircraft available as of 1.5.0

 

Tier III Breda Ba.27 Metallico Full price 775 Gold.

 

Although in Chinese service, the first Italian plane comes to WOWP! The Breda Ba. 27 is also the first tier III premium aircraft that can be purchased from the ingame store since the Brewster F2A-1 from Open Beta.

 

 

Pros:

  • Long weapons heatcycle.

 

Cons:

  • Below average on just about every specification when compared to tech tree mono-wing counterparts (with optimal upgrades), except credit generation.

 

The mounted 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT is unique to this aircraft.

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/warplanes/china/ba-27/

 

Tier IV Nakajima Ki-43-Ic Full price 1100 Gold.

 

This "Oscar/Hayabusa" is the Chinese "captured" version of this infamous Japanese Army Air Force front line fighter. Although sharing the same tier and a passing resemblance to the Mitsubishi A6M1 "Zero", these aircraft couldn't be any more different from each other.

 

Pros:

  • Above average on just about every specification when compared to the same tier Mitsubishi A6M1 "Zero" (with optimal upgrades).

 

Cons:

  • Slightly below average stall speed (rated at 95. Mitsubishi A6M1 rated at 90, with optimal upgrades).
  • Below average firepower (rated at 43. Mitsubishi A6M1 rated at 99, with maximum armament).

 

The mounted 12.7 mm Ho-103 (S) are unique to this aircraft.

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/warplanes/china/ki-43-ic/

 

Tier VII Gloster Meteor F. I Mission Reward.

 

Introducing the iconic British aircraft, and as a premium! For the first time, a jet now appears in the game below tier VIII, and was the reward for completing the "A Streak across the Sky" event in August 2014.

 

Pros:

  • Above average rate of climb (rated at 32.10. Supermarine Spitfire IX rated at 28.10, Westland P.1056 rated at 20.10, with optimal upgrades).
  • Above average airspeed (rated at 485. Supermarine Spitfire IX rated at 331, Westland P.1056 rated at 471, with optimal upgrades).

 

Cons:

  • Below average optimal altitude (rated at 1600. Supermarine Spitfire IX rated at 1950, Westland P.1056 rated at 2100, with optimal upgrades).

 

The mounted 20 mm Hispano Mk.V ( C ) are a tiered down variant found on both the Westland P.1056 and Gloster P.228.

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/warplanes/gb/meteor/


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Alien__1 #51 Posted 23 August 2014 - 02:45 AM

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thanks for the up dates.... great info for the new players :honoring:

Quesnel #52 Posted 23 August 2014 - 02:56 AM

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View PostAlien__1, on 23 August 2014 - 03:45 AM, said:

thanks for the up dates.... great info for the new players :honoring:

 

A little late, but I had to get the Meteor to complete this update (since I couldn't test it on the 1.5 CT server).


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Updated with a Hawker Hurricane IID entry http://forum.worldofwarplanes.com/index.php?/topic/25302-a-quick-guide-to-premium-aircraft/page__pid__352587#entry352587


Kiwiav8r #54 Posted 11 September 2014 - 09:46 PM

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I want to comment about a couple of premium aircraft I am enjoying flying at the moment.

 

  1. The Ki-43-Ic - brilliant little dogfighter.  Can out turn anything in tiers IV and V and most of the tier III planes as well (much to the surprise of the I-16e pilot I shot down).  The trick to this plane is getting in close before opening fire.  Your maneuverability advantage means once you are on someones tail you can track them easily, and your twin 50 cal mgs will chew up their heath a lot faster than you'd think.  It is faster and can out climb an A6M1 as well as out turn it and I've killed several Zero pilots who got into a turn fight thinking I was an US/UK/German plane.  Like the IJN series its weakness is a lack of health and armor so you need to keep an eye on your six at all times.  It could also use more guns but I accept that it is a premium and more firepower would make it OP.  It makes an interesting contrast to the Model 81-A-1 which has the same guns but is a BnZ plane.
  2. The Curtis P-36C - an american Bristol.  This plane feels very similar to the Bristol 146.  It can do a bit of everything.  It doesn't have great altitude ceiling, nor decent guns, nor outstanding maneuverability.  But it has enough to be adequate.  What it does have is good dive speed, an excellent roll rate (for a US plane), above average sustained turn rate and good energy retention within its altitude band.  You can TnB aircraft that can outzoom you and BnZ aircraft that can out turn you.

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View PostKiwiav8r, on 11 September 2014 - 10:46 PM, said:

 

The Curtis P-36C - an american Bristol.  This plane feels very similar to the Bristol 146.  It can do a bit of everything.  It doesn't have great altitude ceiling, nor decent guns, nor outstanding maneuverability.  But it has enough to be adequate.  What it does have is good dive speed, an excellent roll rate (for a US plane), above average sustained turn rate and good energy retention within its altitude band.  You can TnB aircraft that can outzoom you and BnZ aircraft that can out turn you.

 

Although I enjoyed this aircraft very much back in Beta, it hasn't been made "readily available" to the NA playerbase. I have heard of ways some player have gotten their hands on one.........................


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View PostQuesnel, on 12 September 2014 - 09:51 AM, said:

 

Although I enjoyed this aircraft very much back in Beta, it hasn't been made "readily available" to the NA playerbase. I have heard of ways some player have gotten their hands on one.........................

 

 

Gift code from e-bay.  Came with a premium tank as well but since I don't play tanks it's kinda moot.

 

 


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CogKnispel #57 Posted 24 September 2014 - 11:38 PM

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Kiwiav8r we might have been bidding on the same P36c for a bit there. I like the P36 more, but don't have enough hours in the 36C to really say anything.

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Updated with an entry for the Boeing YP-29 http://forum.worldofwarplanes.com/index.php?/topic/25302-a-quick-guide-to-premium-aircraft/page__pid__352587#entry352587 at the bottom.


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Aircraft available as of 1.6

 

Tier VII Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-8/R2 Full price 6400 Gold.

 

The first, new German "Mutli-Role" aircraft comes in as an evolutionary upgrade to the ingame, tech tree tier VI  Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-5. The A-8/R2 enjoys many refinements over the A-5, pairing it's position next to the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 D at tier VII, very well.

 

Pros:

  • Above average hitpoints (rated at 330. Messerschmitt Bf 109 G rated at 285, Focke-Wulf Fw 190 D rated at 320, both with optimal upgrades).
  • Above average firepower vs tech tree contemporaries (rated at 462, Messerschmitt Bf 109 G rated at 241, Focke-Wulf Fw 190 D rated at 387, both with optimal upgrades).

Cons:

  • Below average maneuverability and rate of climb.
  • Below average rate of climb and dive speed.
  • Below average operational altitude (rated at 1850, Messerschmitt Bf 109 G rated at 2300, Focke-Wulf Fw 190 D rated at 2100, both with optimal upgrades).

 

The mounted 13.2 mm MG-131 is shared with the Messerschmitt Bf 109 F Friedrich, Bf 109 G Gustav, Messerschmitt Me 209 A, Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-5 and Fw 190 D. The mounted 20 mm MG-151/20 (1941) is a variant shared with the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-5. The mounted 30 mm MK-108 (1942) is shared with the Fw 190 D. The optional SC-250 bombs are shared with Messerschmitt Bf 110 B, Bf 110 E, Me 410 Hornisse, Bf 109 Z Zwilling, Me 262 Schwalbe, Me 262HG II, Me 262 HG III, and Focke-Wulf Fw 190 D.

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/warplanes/germany/fw-190a8/

 

Tier VII Yakovlev Yak-3RD Full price 6600 Gold.

 

It's a plane? It's a rocket? Nope, it's both! The Yak-3RD combines the proven Yak-3 Fighter with a rocket to bring the fastest Soviet tier VII into the game.

 

Pros:

  • Above average airspeed.
  • Highest operational altitude among same tier tech tree aircraft (rated at 1800. Yakovlev Yak-9U and Yak-3 rated at 1300. Lavochkin La-7 rated at 1600, all with optimal upgrades).
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Cons:

  • Below average maneuverability and rate of climb (un-boosted)
  • Below average firepower.
  • Highly susceptible to catching fire when hit.

 

The lone mounted 23 mm NR-23 (H) is unique to this aircraft.

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/warplanes/ussr/yak-3rd/

 

Tier VII Gloster Meteor F. I Full Price 6800 Gold.

 

Introducing the iconic British aircraft, and as a premium! For the first time, a jet now appears in the game below tier VIII, and was the reward for completing the "A Streak across the Sky" event in August 2014.

 

Pros:

  • Above average rate of climb (rated at 32.10. Supermarine Spitfire IX rated at 28.10, Westland P.1056 rated at 20.10, with optimal upgrades).
  • Above average airspeed (rated at 485. Supermarine Spitfire IX rated at 331, Westland P.1056 rated at 471, with optimal upgrades).

 

Cons:

  • Below average optimal altitude (rated at 1600. Supermarine Spitfire IX rated at 1950, Westland P.1056 rated at 2100, with optimal upgrades).

 

The mounted 20 mm Hispano Mk.V ( C ) are a tiered down variant found on both the Westland P.1056 and Gloster P.228.

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/warplanes/gb/meteor/

 

Tier VII Fisher XP-75 Eagle Full Price 6200 Gold.

 

Either the Mustang has a much bigger brother or the Tigercat has a leaner, meaner new relative. At any rate, this American premium Heavy is very well armed and quick to take on it's role.

 

 

Pros:

  • Faster than it's fully upgraded tech tree counterpart (rated at 697. Grumman F7F Tigercat rated at 680 with top engines installed).
  • Good rate of climb and dive speed.
  • Slight edge in maneuverability over the Tigercat.

Cons:

  • Below average firepower (rated at 270. Grumman F7F Tigercat rated at 480 with optimal weapons installed).
  • Lower operational altitude than the Tigercat (rated 1800 vs 2100).

 

The mounted 12.7 mm AN/M2 (W) is shared with the Grumman XF4F-3, Bell XP-77 and Chance-Vought XF4U-1. The mounted 12.7 mm AN/M2 (S) is a variant of the (W).

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/warplanes/usa/xp-75/

 

Tier VII Mitsubishi J4M Senden Full Price 6300 Gold.

 

While not quite a Heavy Fighter, the Senden does bring a much tougher aircraft to the battle over a better equipped, same tiered Mitsubishi A7M.

 

 

Pros:

  • Above average firepower vs it's fully upgraded tech tree counterpart (rated at 437. Mitsubishi A7M rated at 329 with optimal weapons installed).
  • Good dive speed.
  • Higher operational altitude than the A7M (rated 2000 vs 1600).

Cons:

  • Below average rate of clime.
  • Below average maneuverability (rated at 265. Mitsubishi A7M rated at 349 with optimal upgrades installed).

 

The mounted 30 mm Type 2 ( C ) is shared with the Kyushu J7W1 Shinden. The mounted 20 mm Type 99-2 Model 5 ( C ) is shared with the Kyushu J7W1 Shinden and J7W2 Shinden-Kai.

 

http://worldofwarplanes.com/warplanes/japan/j4m/


Edited by Quesnel, 28 October 2014 - 04:01 PM.


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