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Mongooser #1 Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:10 AM

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If you add rockets and/or bombs to a plane, your lose speed and maneuverability, which is understandable.  If you expend ALL of your rockets and/or bombs, do you get the speed and maneuverability back mid game, or do you remain gimped for the rest of the battle?

Dirtdiver42 #2 Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:26 AM

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Good question and if ya attach a bomb can ya unattach it somehow?

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View PostMongooser, on 13 September 2013 - 03:10 AM, said:

If you add rockets and/or bombs to a plane, your lose speed and maneuverability, which is understandable.  If you expend ALL of your rockets and/or bombs, do you get the speed and maneuverability back mid game, or do you remain gimped for the rest of the battle?

I'm a little vague on it since 0.5.1 when they last readjusted the physics of this.  Before that patch, you would get all of your stats back upon releasing the explosive.  The wording on the 0.5.1 notes is a little unclear and I haven't seen a clarification.  It says, "The chosen armament now has a bigger effect on the plane’s flight characteristics. Bomb and rocket racks now continue to slow your aircraft down, even after you’ve gotten rid of the additional payload."  I haven't noticed a difference after dropping all ordinance since this patch, so I'm leaning to it meaning all performance is lost permanently.  I think others say it's just the racks and you get back some of your performance.  Again, since I've seen no clear clarification, I'm not sure myself.

View PostDirtdiver42, on 13 September 2013 - 03:26 AM, said:

Good question and if ya attach a bomb can ya unattach it somehow?

Yes you can.  There's two ways.
In the modules, you can unequip the module just as you equip it.
In the service tab, you can select how many to load/unload before going into battle.  This means, if you want, you can only carry 1 bomb instead of 2, or 3 rockets instead of 8.

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Dsembr_Rein #4 Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:41 AM

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The actual numbers are a mystery, but you do gain back maneuverability once you use your ordnance.

View PostDirtdiver42, on 13 September 2013 - 03:26 AM, said:

Good question and if ya attach a bomb can ya unattach it somehow?
Either take the module off your plane or simply drop the bomb, like you're meant to do...

Mercsn #5 Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:30 AM

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View PostDsembr_Rein, on 13 September 2013 - 03:41 AM, said:

The actual numbers are a mystery, but you do gain back maneuverability once you use your ordnance.Either take the module off your plane or simply drop the bomb, like you're meant to do...

And dropping the bomb (or firing rockets) can be done AT ANY TIME in the match,  not just when near a ground target.   Keep that in mind when you need to fight enemy planes.  

A light fighter really has no reason ia pub match to carry ordnance., you have GA and HF on your team to counter supremacy.  Killing planes always wins.   Trading altitude for a bad XP ground kill is tactically stupid.  If you'd like to read more discussion on this subject you can try a couple threads of started on it:  the elephant in the room and warning to fighters attacking ground targets.

If you'd like to see how much of a waste of time it is to employ ordnance (rockets and bombs) to kill a ground taret instead of keeping a good altitude to get air kills, here's a quick look at how TERRIBLE ground target XP is unless you kill a LOT (which usually requires flying a Russian Attack "GA" or lower tier German Heavy "HF").  How are XP and credits awarded.

To answer the OP's question, as others mentioned, once you dump (drop or fire) your ordnance, you get some of the stats back.  It is unclear with the latest patch how much, if any, penalty there is for the empty bomb mounts or rocket racks.  The patch however seemed aimed at increasing both the ordnance penalty and the rack penalty.

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Pinko_Zinko #6 Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:34 PM

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View PostMercsn, on 13 September 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:


To answer the OP's question, as others mentioned, once you dump (drop or fire) your ordnance, you get some of the stats back.  It is unclear with the latest patch how much, if any, penalty there is for the empty bomb mounts or rocket racks.  The patch however seemed aimed at increasing both the ordnance penalty and the rack penalty.

I can't tell the difference between a plane which dropped everything and one which had no bombs/rockets to begin with. I have a feeling that the difference is pretty small. Or, I'm a bad pilot. It's probably more of the latter, but that's my two cents.

UraniumOverdose #7 Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:36 PM

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On the F11C when I drop the Derp bomb, I definitely get my performance back. I do not know if you get it all back like if you ran without the bomb to begin with though.
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