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Jinxed_Katajainen #21 Posted 14 August 2013 - 04:48 PM

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View PostJDMFreakz, on 14 August 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

the ingame tree is "carrier based fighter" not "naval fighter"..

The 'carrier based fighter' label for the tree is incorrect for the J4M and J7W as those were land based interceptors.

ColOddball27 #22 Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:55 AM

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Japanese did have land based planes for the army but they were just basically just the carrier based designs just being use on land by the army or they were the big 2 twin engine bombers to big for carriers.

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View PostMikeg27, on 22 August 2013 - 02:55 AM, said:

Japanese did have land based planes for the army but they were just basically just the carrier based designs just being use on land by the army or they were the big 2 twin engine bombers to big for carriers.

That is entirely incorrect as the Japanese army and navy did not share any airplane designs
They had a totally different procurement routes and often did not work together at all for most of the war

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View PostMikeg27, on 22 August 2013 - 02:55 AM, said:

Japanese did have land based planes for the army but they were just basically just the carrier based designs just being use on land by the army or they were the big 2 twin engine bombers to big for carriers.

That is an old myth that dates back to before WWII. Unless you are confusing the Japanese land based navy units with Japanese army units.


 

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ColOddball27 #25 Posted 12 September 2013 - 02:42 AM

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View PostMikeg27, on 22 August 2013 - 02:55 AM, said:

Japanese did have land based planes for the army but they were just basically just the carrier based designs just being use on land by the army or they were the big 2 twin engine bombers to big for carriers.

Ok, after reading what the other 2 people said yes I was wrong and yes I was confusing them with the land based navel units.

Guardian54 #26 Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:32 PM

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Consult this page: http://en.wikipedia....rcraft_of_Japan

This could be tier 8/9 or so, depending on buffing: http://en.wikipedia....Nakajima_Ki-201

TheGauntman #27 Posted 22 October 2013 - 02:58 AM

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Some of the Japanese best planes are in the Army, the Tony was made to take on P-51s. Be great to see that.

_Down_Range #28 Posted 27 October 2013 - 02:35 AM

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Battles played - 50+Plane balance - The newest releases have made this a better plane.  However, it does not stack up well against other tier 7 and higher A/C because it does not do well at high altitude where the higher tier A/C operateHistorical accuracy - While this was mostly a test A/C it seems to me the Japs would have designed a new fighter to work at the higher altitudes to get to the B-29s. So because the A/C tops out below 5000 feet I would say there is a historic inaccuracyPower curve - There is not much of a change as the A/C is upgradedAdjustment recommendations - The operational ceiling needs to be increased to at least 7K feet based on my comments aboveAdditional notes - Maybe the MK9E engine or similar can be the Supercharged Ha-43 Engine so this would give it better higher Altitude performance.
The Japanese had failed to progress their aircraft much like the Germans did... keeping the same idealogy behind what they considered an advancement ( they keep poor armor, no self-sealing fuel tanks, low alititude performance, high manueveability) until it was too late. You are making judgements on planes SO FAR in the Japanese line... if you research other aircraft that will make it into the Japanese line (ie. the Ki-100 for example) they (japanese govt) decided to make higher performing planes, only a few which saw combat before the end of the war. For information purpose, the Ki-100 had a version that was designed to engage the B-29 and the J2M4 was also a high altitude interceptor. I am sure the Devs will add this aircraft to the lineup amoung others ( there is still  more Japanese jets that has not appeared yet-- the Japanese version of the ME-262, the J8N-1 Kikka, J1N1 Gekko, Ki-201 for example) and the Japanese line will be more playable at mid-level to higher tiers and at higher altitudes. WoWP is just getting started and the current plane lineups for all current countries is just the start... many more are coming. Personally I think its exciting getting in on the ground level of a game like this and seeing all the aircraft additions.Other exciting Japanese aircraft to look for:Ki-43,Ki-61,Ki-84,Ki-100,J8N-1 Kikka.....and there is their heavy fighters( Ki-93,Ki-96, Kogiken Plan 1 Type A) along with a couple of GA aircraft (Ki-98 & Ki-102) line too so keep an eye out and look up some of these planes. But I do agree that the A7M3 with the Ha-43 supercharged engine should be brought aboard.
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Mitsubishi-Payen PA.400
J1N1 Gekko
Kayaba Katsuodori
Ki-94-I
Ki-94-II
Ki-88
Ki-98 (Ground Attack)
Ki-102 (Ground Attack)
Ki-46-IIIB (Ground Attack)
Ki-46-III Kai (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-73 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-64 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-93 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-96 (Heavy Fighter)
Kogiken Plan I Type A (Heavy Fighter)
Kogiken Plan I Type B1 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-102 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-108 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-88
R2Y Keiun
Ki-61-I
Ki-61-II ( high altitude fighter )
Ki-84-IC (high altitude fighter)  <----- if WoWP does this one right it'll be the one to really look for in a fighter that stands up to advanced allied aircraft.
Ki-87-I (high altitude fighter)
Ki-87-II (high altitude fighter)
J2M4 Model 32 Raiden (high altitude fighter)
J2M4 Model 33 Raiden (high altitude fighter)
J2M4 Model 34 Raiden (high altitude fighter)
Ki-100-I
Ki-100-II (high altitude fighter)
N1K1, 2, 3, 4, 5 -J
J3K1 Type 17 (Interceptor)
J6K1 (Interceptor)
Ki-201 (Jet)
J8N-1 Kikka (Jet)
Kayaba Katsuodori (Jet)
Ki-162 (Jet)
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There are more than this but I think it should keep you busy and spirits up about the Japanese Line  :trollface:

oldiowaguy #29 Posted 05 November 2013 - 05:14 PM

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I hope they expand the line soon. My trees would include:

HF II   ???
     III   Kawasaki Ki-45
IV   Nakajima Ki-58
V    Mitsubishi Ki-83
VI   Mitsubishi Ki-109
VII  Nakajima  Ki-201


GA II   Aichi D1A2 type 96
  III  Aichi D3A type 99
  IV  Aichi B7A1
  V  Kawasaki Ki-66
  VI  Kawasaki Ki-102
  VII  Nakajima J8N1

                                                                    

 





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