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PanzerXO #1 Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:47 AM

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I've got over 1500 battles between Closed and Open Beta, and just got these planes.  They utterly ROCK! I have a 63% w/r in the P40-105 and a 71% w/r in the Zero - all battles flown solo.
My tactic is to linger near the base and ambush their HQ rushers, and I use it on both planes.  Afterward I go swarm hunting.  With my pilot on the Zero only at 75%, I got accused of hacking due to me out turning another player (idjit!).  The P40 prints cash (@ 200K on a win, 50K on a loss - yes, during the event...).  It is a great ambusher and brutal at short range engagements.
Anyway - if you haven't played these: do.
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...By flying into the middle you are boldly stating that you are a noob and haven’t learned your lesson yet.
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THX1138 #2 Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:56 AM

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Love my A6M1, but in tier 2-4 matches I'm starting to feel like more of a bully than a fighter pilot. I mean wood and fabric targets don;t hold up well against 20mm cannons lol

TheGreenTank #3 Posted 26 July 2013 - 06:20 AM

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Tier 2 does need to be given a break.

PanzerXO #4 Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:32 AM

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The Tier IV Zeke was sure fun to fly, too - but I'm talking about the Tier V one (A6M5); rarely sees Tier II outside of poor flight choices by players.

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...By flying into the middle you are boldly stating that you are a noob and haven’t learned your lesson yet.
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Sandman1969 #5 Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:13 PM

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I think my fav currently would be the F4F Wildcat.

And yes, poor tier 2s need a break.

AdmiralKird #6 Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:48 PM

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The zeroes are quite bad at the moment.


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IMO you're hamstrung by WG's deep-rooted "I've got a secret" complex.

PanzerXO #7 Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:59 PM

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View PostAdmiralKird, on 26 July 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

The zeroes are quite bad at the moment.

How do you mean?

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...By flying into the middle you are boldly stating that you are a noob and haven’t learned your lesson yet.
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_Laserguided_ #8 Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:09 PM

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View PostPanzerXO, on 26 July 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

How do you mean?

They did something to the Zeros. They are not the same since the wipe of  Open Beta.


Because it feels to me like you guys would rather play with [edit] Laserguided and that [edit] me off. A [edit]  lot.  -- Auto

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PanzerXO #9 Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:14 PM

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Huh.  I find it to be pretty damn good.  Must have been amazing pre wipe.

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...By flying into the middle you are boldly stating that you are a noob and haven’t learned your lesson yet.
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_Lindy_ #10 Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:49 PM

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The A6M2 used to be really a hot plane, it has never had any armor, but it used to be a serious turner ( I dont remember which patch they nerfed them, people used to complain about them so much) and on the opposite spectrum, the P40 was a real turd, very few people could fly it effectively, now all that’s changed

datum perficiemus munus

 

 


Sun_Grazer #11 Posted 26 July 2013 - 06:23 PM

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View PostPanzerXO, on 26 July 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

I've got over 1500 battles between Closed and Open Beta, and just got these planes.  They utterly ROCK! I have a 63% w/r in the P40-105 and a 71% w/r in the Zero - all battles flown solo.
My tactic is to linger near the base and ambush their HQ rushers, and I use it on both planes.  Afterward I go swarm hunting.  With my pilot on the Zero only at 75%, I got accused of hacking due to me out turning another player (idjit!).  The P40 prints cash (@ 200K on a win, 50K on a loss - yes, during the event...).  It is a great ambusher and brutal at short range engagements.
Anyway - if you haven't played these: do.
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Ahh, so you're one of those who hangs back for easy kills while your team gets blasted because you're not there to support them. To be sure there are many of you in every battleground. You succeed in padding your personal stats while your team suffers.

In real conflicts pilots like yourself often find themselves the victims of their own sides guns because they are more dangerous to their group than to the enemy.
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Heh #12 Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:31 PM

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View PostSun_Grazer, on 26 July 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

Ahh, so you're one of those who hangs back for easy kills while your team gets blasted because you're not there to support them. To be sure there are many of you in every battleground. You succeed in padding your personal stats while your team suffers.
In real conflicts pilots like yourself often find themselves the victims of their own sides guns because they are more dangerous to their group than to the enemy.
Oh I'm sorry, I should have dived like a headless rooster into the furball, while it's already a lost cause! I should have made myself a target like the rest!
Seriously though, here's how it works: you get yourself into a sticky situation, you're the one at fault. It's logical ain't it? Now, I can save your butt in an energy fighter if the enemy happens to be flying predictably enough, but if he keeps turning, I can't help you effectively without losing the energy advantage, which makes that big of a difference. Therefore, if that happens, I know it would be a two can dine meal for the enemy and the team ends up losing two planes instead of one. So I'm letting you die instead of both of us, since you'd be the one in the inevitable death situation, while I and other teammates would have that as a choice. I choose not to die.
Now, if I'm in a turnfighter, I'm much more lenient towards doing stuff like this, but if there's a furball, I'm not going in there. Furballs are casino death camps. Even then, I'd focus on the best turnfighter in order to slowly turn the tide of the furball into the team's favor. That's only with equal distribution of allies and enemies. When enemies outnumber the allies in the furball, screw it, I'm not giving the enemy yet another free kill and will fall back climbing instead. It's better because I don't give the enemy a free kill and will slowly gain an energy advantage while doing it.
If I'm in a sky whale, to hell with helping furballs. My beef is only with ground targets, other sky whales, and other planes that just happen to linger in front of me. And of course the tailgaters behind me. No more, no less.
Now, why am I saying all this? Because your statement is so full of holes that if it were to be placed on water, it would sink instantly.

Edited by Heh, 27 July 2013 - 09:41 PM.

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OMG Heh you have had so many posts O_O

PanzerXO #13 Posted 27 July 2013 - 08:58 PM

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What amuses me about SunGrazer's post is that he completely missed the fact that anyone on my team during those games enjoyed the same w/r as me.   Seems my tactics paid off for a large number of people.

Oh,  and what Heh said.

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...By flying into the middle you are boldly stating that you are a noob and haven’t learned your lesson yet.
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Worlds_Okayest_Dad #14 Posted 28 July 2013 - 07:31 AM

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What kills a win in most cases are people who turn fight in BnZ fighters, and fighters attacking ground targets.....

computit #15 Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:56 AM

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P40-105's probably the best bargain in WoWP. I've owned one as soon as I could get one in closed beta, and same with open. I'm an agressive, rather than tactical fighter; and I spring to a teamates' side instantly to help them. So...I die a lot.

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Your lack of flying skill does NOT equate to me or anyone else 'hacking'. Go fly bots, or low tiers and practice.


TheLucinator #16 Posted 29 July 2013 - 06:50 AM

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I love my p-40, though I use it differently than you.  Since the 50cals dont get good pen against high armor planes like ground attack and heavy fighters I go for the softer skinned planes, using my 50cal dakka to nail low hp planes like the zero and russian fighters.

Edited by TheLucinator, 29 July 2013 - 07:11 AM.


OnboardG1 #17 Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:26 AM

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I need to try the P40-105. I fly extremely aggressively so it sounds like it would suit me.

PanzerXO #18 Posted 30 July 2013 - 02:11 AM

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View PostOnboardG1, on 29 July 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

I need to try the P40-105. I fly extremely aggressively so it sounds like it would suit me.

yep.  I think you will.

View PostTheLucinator, on 29 July 2013 - 06:50 AM, said:

I love my p-40, though I use it differently than you.  Since the 50cals dont get good pen against high armor planes like ground attack and heavy fighters I go for the softer skinned planes, using my 50cal dakka to nail low hp planes like the zero and russian fighters.

there is a bit of subtlety that I must use against GA or HF with big tail guns.  You absolutely cannot chase them for long, (depending upon tier) if you hope to do much good, especially later in the game.  However, if you can get in close and shoot at a broad wing section (catch them in a turn, or come in on their flight path, but from a high steep angle) you can absolutely tear them up.  OTOH - if one of the base rushers suckered someone in a light fighter or carrier fighter to 'escort' them in the "hey-diddle-diddle, let's-suicide up- the middle"  plan, I will eliminate those idiots so I have the leisure to take out the HF /GA my way.

in any event, I ve been having a blast in those two little planes.

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...By flying into the middle you are boldly stating that you are a noob and haven’t learned your lesson yet.
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fnfalg1 #19 Posted 30 July 2013 - 04:23 PM

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My surprise was the Sh-Tandem, fun weird little plane that can actually do everything. Turns better than the other russian attack planes, low firepower is offset some by the rate of fire, more hits, and its a good credit earner.

Love the Hawk 75M to the P-40 then the American Navy line from the Buffalo on up. P51a is just work.

I have made ace multiple times in the LBSh ! Just a matter of learning how to play and low enough level that many flyer's are not very experienced.

BnZ is a good hammer but for fun both the P-40's do it as well as the F4F.

Mortpur #20 Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:48 PM

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PanzerX0. I have been flying the a6m1 and the a6m5 during this open beta almost exclusively and my tactics are the same as yours. If I jump right into battle I die almost instantly due to no armor. if I hang back, pick off the bombers and then join the fight, I find myself with 6-7 kills.
People just don't get that the planes ARE great in a dog fight!! As long as your the one doing the chasing  :honoring:




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