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JarethG #1 Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:47 PM

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Welcome to live release pilots! (Update 11-16-13)


Ok, so we have a lot of tips and tricks, but a lot of them are geared towards experienced players. I thought we might try and consolidate a list of tips and tricks for the new guy who has never had a joystick in their hand.


1) Don't fly straight


2) Look around you at the start of the match, and don't maneuver immediately without knowing where your teammates are around you.


3) If someone is flying at you, and higher than you, pulling up is a bad idea. Either fly straight, or dive underneath them.


4) If someone is flying at you, and lower than you, diving down is a bad idea. Either fly straight, or pull up.


5) Get a joystick, that is how planes are meant to be flown. (Personal opinion, many will disagree.)


6) Don't try and dog fight a Ground Attack (GA) or Heavy Fighter (HF) (HF against a Light Fighter (LF) )


7) Practice, practice, practice. Get with a more experienced pilot, and have them help you out. Get in training rooms and practice killing bots.  No, the bots are not very "realistic" in terms of what players will do, but they are a great place to start.

 

8) Bombs and rockets slow your plane down. They serve a purpose, but bear this in mind when you put them on your plane.


9) Bombs and rockets make your plane less maneuverable. They serve a purpose, but bear this in mind when you put them on your plane.


10) LF should try to take out other LF and HF first. Watch for the Boom and Zoom (BnZ) from the HF.


11) If you are flying a HF, your most effective attack against other aircraft is the BnZ.


12) GA, after you drop your bombs, help your team the best you can. If they are behind in supremacy, knock out some more ground targets (GT) to reset the timer, and get your team back in. BnZ other aircraft as the opportunity comes. If your team is ahead on supremacy, go help by BnZ other enemy planes.


13) Don't fly into trees, towers, lines, and the like when flying near the ground, they do damage your plane, and can cause you to crash.


14) Do not follow anyone on a bomb run low and close behind them. If you are in the blast radius of the bomb, you will be killed.


15) If you are in an aircraft with a Tail Gunner (TG), and being pursued, maneuver so that your TG can fire at your pursuer. Getting close to the ground, and using slow yaw turns can be helpful with this, but also makes you easier to hit.


16) When firing, fire in short bursts to help keep guns from overheating, and lead your targets. The red aiming circle is a guide, and not 100% accurate. (I will be happy to explain the reasons for this more, but that discussion gets more advanced, and not meant for this list.) Try to hold your fire until you are within 500 meters, you will be far more accurate.


17) In a Dogfight/Turnfight, and you are outnumbered, don't try to focus on a single target, but keep rapidly maneuvering your plane, and firing only at targets of opportunity.

 

18) When selecting an enemy to shoot down, getting the one on your teammate's tail is more important to the overall team victory/success than killing the enemy your teammate is already working on and has smoking.  IE, clearing your teammate's tail is more important than "stealing the kill."
(help me out guys, I know there are more, and will add them to the list, this is what is immediately coming to mind though.)


Edited by JarethG, 16 November 2013 - 01:43 PM.


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Iron_Tsunami #2 Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:07 PM

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I'm SOOOO ready for planes! Thanks for the tips!  :honoring:

_Zesty_ #3 Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:29 PM

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At the beginning of the battles don't turn suddenly or you'll hit another aircraft.

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cabbage72 #4 Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:32 PM

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Nice article sir, just a comment!! Like the way your directs the new guy on the block [cloud, so to speak] using the abbreviations this is important  too establish first time around..... there is so much that this game has to offer.
What little I can offer is:
If your in a Fighter.......  ***Attack***the Flying Targets [not the ground targets]; leave that to the others.

If you have a mix load of ordnances :  Get rid of your bombs first, [you lose your bomb sight ring]; then your rockets. Once your finished  with your load, you turn your attention to assisting your team mates get rid of the aircraft.

Depending on the targets some take one rocket and others take two.

Hang back size up the battle contacts:  once making contact, stay out of the JAMS....especially if your new

Start  of the GAME CLOCK:  Watch where your at in the formation........ and not pull in-to your neighbor.  I have been knocked down by a friendly in the first 5 seconds of start.  Learn how to ready your Radar, and where your at on the Mini-map using the narrow and wide beam to see.

Hitting the out game boundaries.......... and letting your plane bounce back and forth.....you will see targets do that... which are AFK's, someone who has lost connects; etc.

TARGETS:  Watching for the towers that are near, they hurt when you hit them......go for the Anti Aircraft Guns first.... they also hurt.

[hope this adds to help]

WulfNose #5 Posted 30 June 2013 - 11:09 PM

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If the broken MM places you lowest in a three tier game, find a top tier plane and ram head-on. You will help your team, and assist the developers in fixing the MM. Wulf

pappabear #6 Posted 30 June 2013 - 11:30 PM

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Don't fly low and behind a GA when trying to kill them. You can usually bet they have a bomb waiting on you.




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NathanFlightLeader #7 Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:02 AM

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If your in a GA and a Fighter gets behind you, keep manuevering so that your tail gunner (if you have one) can shoot at him. If anything it will distract the fighter.

Also if your in a GA and a Fighter is behind you don't try turning tight, he can manuever a lot better than you but you can take damage. Just fly straight and let him shoot at you and soon enough a friendly fighter will latch onto him and he will be an easy target. :)
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Dustin467 #8 Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:22 AM

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Question: once you shoot your rockets or drop your bombs, does your aircraft get faster?
And also here's my tip:  don't fly too low when you drop a bomb.  I blew myself up in my corsair doing that.
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RobSmith #9 Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:25 AM

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Dicta Boelcke

1. Try to secure the upper hand before attacking. If possible, keep the sun behind you
2. Always continue with an attack you have begun
3. Open fire only at close range, and then only when the opponent is squarely in your sights
4. You should always try to keep your eye on your opponent, and never let yourself be deceived by ruses
5. In any type of attack, it is essential to assail your opponent from behind
6. If your opponent dives on you, do not try to get around his attack, but fly to meet it
7. When over the enemy's lines, always remember your own line of retreat
8. Tip for Squadrons: In principle, it is better to attack in groups of four or six. Avoid two aircraft attacking the same opponent

These are still as relevant as they were when written almost 100 years ago and work very well in game.

If you carry bombs or rockets, get rid of them first since they greatly affect your aircraft's flying characteristics. Find the closest ground target to you and let em have it. If you are flying a heavy or dedicated ground attack aircraft, stay low, altitude is NOT your friend with those.

If you are flying a fighter without ground ordnance, get up as high as you can right at the beginning of battle, always attack from above, NEVER attack an enemy above you if you can avoid it. Avoid dogfighting as much as you can, the risk is simply not worth the reward as you will end up soaking up a bunch of damage for nothing. Get up high, dive on an enemy plane of your choice, and if you can't shoot him down in one pass get back up and repeat the process. Do you best to never end up below your enemy, it's better to break off an attack early than to end up with the enemy on top of you.

ESCORT THE BOMBERS !!! Don't get drawn away just because of a single enemy aircraft happens to be in sight, if he's not doing anything, leave him be.

Avoid fighting over the enemy base and AA guns, only attack an enemy over his own base if he is trying to attack one of your bombers.

Remember that speed is life, and the best way to gain speed is to dive, this is why you need to stay up high if you are a fighter. When you are a bomber, staying low means that your tail gunner has a better chance of hitting since they tend to fire upwards.

RobSmith #10 Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:26 AM

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Yes it does, it might not be by much but it does make a difference.

View PostDustin467, on 01 July 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

Question: once you shoot your rockets or drop your bombs, does your aircraft get faster?
And also here's my tip:  don't fly too low when you drop a bomb.  I blew myself up in my corsair doing that.


PanzerXO #11 Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:30 AM

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I would add (immediately after # 1) "In almost every case, try to gain altitude early (climb).  You will want it later.  In planes, guys who are higher than other players have an initial advantage.  Depending upon what you are playing, rinse and repeat.

Don't shoot as soon as you see the aiming circle; get close and wear them out with sustained ACCURATE fire.

Don't turn fight in a BnZ plane, and don't chase a BnZ plane in a turn-fighter.

Edited by PanzerXO, 01 July 2013 - 01:31 AM.

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...By flying into the middle you are boldly stating that you are a noob and haven’t learned your lesson yet.
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billafu #12 Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:21 AM

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I think another vitally important tip is throttle control. Easing off to turn inside an opponent, or dive on a target. Back to max power or boosting into a climb. Throttle and stick, equally important in aerial combat.
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SourKraut13 #13 Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:30 AM

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On tip number 2: If said plane has a bomb mounted, don't fly underneath them, as they will drop said bomb on you and send you to a fiery death.
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JarethG #14 Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:04 PM

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Good points guys.  I will take some time later to edit the list.

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stealth250 #15 Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:09 PM

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Hope this link helps too
http://forum.worldof...258#entry202258

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Pzart #16 Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:37 PM

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Some great tips here for newcomers! A few things I would add (even if repeated):

- Try shooting the 'leading edge' of the enemy's target circle if turned on.
- Don't start firing on an enemy until within 300 to 500 meters (obviously you can fire cannons sooner/farther distance but this list is for new guys...)
- Fire in bursts to better manage the heat of your guns. Don't spray and pray.
- Don't be first into battle. Fly behind other fighters or HFs who will spot the enemy for you.
- Try to engage the enemy only once they have gone after a teammate first (heh!).
- If you aren't in a flight already, just choose a teammate in a similar aircraft (if not covering HF/GA) and become their wingman.
- Know the capabilities of your enemy. Rules of thumb include: don't enter into a turning fight with Zero, don't go head-on with a HF/GA if you are in a lighter aircraft and if outnumbered don't be afraid to run away towards other teammates for help.
- If using mouse and keyboard, make sure to keybind flaps and yaw.

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Qyygle #17 Posted 01 July 2013 - 02:22 PM

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When you're outnumbered in a dogfight and can't run away, don't latch onto one target. Keep turning, but break off after different people each time. Staying on one guy leaves the others free to shoot you down.

Also don't hit trees/masts/radar towers etc... They do hurt you

flippintwit #18 Posted 02 July 2013 - 06:02 AM

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If you have a tail gunner, use yaw turns ( rudder,) with shallow roll ( ailerons ) to turn when being followed by an opponent. It lets you tail gunner do his job.



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JarethG #19 Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:24 PM

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Some great tips there guys, and I have added some of them to the list (consolidated some into a single tip.)

View PostWulfNose, on 30 June 2013 - 11:09 PM, said:

If the broken MM places you lowest in a three tier game, find a top tier plane and ram head-on. You will help your team, and assist the developers in fixing the MM. Wulf

There is nothing wrong with the MM.  However, many people will whine about it.  Remember, that in this game, a tier I can damage a tier X.  Unlike in WoT, any tier plane can damage or even shoot down any other tier.  You have to know and understand your planes strengths and weaknesses, and play your plane accordingly.  

This game has a two tier spread just like WoT.  So as a tier II plane, you could be facing a tier IV plane.  Please remember don't "fail platoon" when you Flight with someone, and try to fly a tier III plane with a tier V plane.  Your tier III could end up in a tier VII match, just like in WoT.  However, as I said in the previous paragraph, unlike in WoT, you can damage, and even shoot down a tier VII plane with your tier III plane.  So, don't despair, and try to contribute to the match as best you can.

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ScrewySqrl #20 Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:20 PM

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View PostJarethG, on 02 July 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

Some great tips there guys, and I have added some of them to the list (consolidated some into a single tip.)



There is nothing wrong with the MM.  However, many people will whine about it.  Remember, that in this game, a tier I can damage a tier X.  Unlike in WoT, any tier plane can damage or even shoot down any other tier.  You have to know and understand your planes strengths and weaknesses, and play your plane accordingly.  

This game has a two tier spread just like WoT.  So as a tier II plane, you could be facing a tier IV plane.  Please remember don't "fail platoon" when you Flight with someone, and try to fly a tier III plane with a tier V plane.  Your tier III could end up in a tier VII match, just like in WoT.  However, as I said in the previous paragraph, unlike in WoT, you can damage, and even shoot down a tier VII plane with your tier III plane.  So, don't despair, and try to contribute to the match as best you can.

i can vouch forthis, having been in a 'fail platoon' of a P-51D (tier 7) and a P-40 (Tier 5) that was dropped into a tier 9 battle.  we teamed up and took down a flying flapjack and a P-51JP.  yes, P-40 shot down a tier 8 plane





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