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woaiwodemvp #1 Posted 09 January 2012 - 02:45 PM

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SmanUK #3 Posted 11 January 2012 - 09:46 PM

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View PostBaken, on 06 January 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

Yeap, polish planes is a must ;). For example Poland had got the best squadron in WWII:
http://en.wikipedia....ighter_Squadron
(yes, i want polish planes because in WoT we hevent got it)

No, thats a Britsh RAF Squadron made up of polish fighter pilots who escaped before they got over run.

AceCombatrix #4 Posted 14 January 2012 - 05:38 PM

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Well, honestly I dont think that there will be an entire polish "tree" , since you guys have to admit that all of the suggested planes(except the PZL P11) are foreign-made.

However it very much possible that polish-made fighters (maybe the PZL11 or the PZL 23 Karas) will come as premiums, like the chinese tank in WoT

And for many other planes like the ones you mentioned, well the WoT community has made loads of custom skins, so if it will be possible to do this in WoWp, you will for sure see polish Hawkers, etc.

Redjevel #5 Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:19 PM

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It would be great to see polish tree but i think its impossible, anyway i hope to see some premium polish planes.

Smaczkov #6 Posted 14 January 2012 - 09:01 PM

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It is possible.
http://en.wikipedia....produced_by_PZL
Most of them are are fighter/bomber prototypes but are also comparable to other aircraft of early WWII and ready to create a tech tree. There's only a problem with top tier planes, however they could be soviet machines produced in Poland after 1945 (like Type 59 in WoT).
We just need more demand from players to have polish planes in WoWp :)

Althenor #7 Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:46 PM

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Polish Aviation List from WW2 period (and earlier) - consider which have to be eliminated from list:
-PZL SPAD S-61
-PZL Wibault 7
-PZL P.1
-PZL Ł.2
-PZL P.2
-PZL.3
-PZL.4
-PZL.5
-PZL P.6
-PZL P.7
-PZL.8
-PZL P.8
-PZL.9
-PZL P.9
-PZL.10
-PZL P.10
-PZL P.11
-PZL.12
-PZL.13
-PZL.14
-PZL.15
-PZL.16
-PZL.17
-PZL.18
-PZL.19
-PZL.20
-PZL.22
-PZL.23 "Karaś"
-PZL P.24
-PZL.26
-PZL.27
-PZL P.28
-PZL.30 "Żubr"
-PZL.33
-PZL.37 "Łoś"
-PZL.38 "Wilk"
-PZL.39
-PZL P.40
-PZL.42
-PZL.43
-PZL.44 "Wicher"
-PZL.45 "Sokół"
-PZL.46 "Sum"
-PZL.48 "Lampart"
-PZL.49 "Miś"
-PZL.50 "Jastrząb"
-PZL.53 "Jastrząb II"
-PZL.54 "Ryś"
-PZL.56 "Kania"
-PZL.62
-PZL "Łosoś"
-LWS-1 (Lublin R-XX)
-LWS-2
-LWS-3 "Mewa"
-LWS-5
-LWS-6 "Żubr"
-LWS-6 "Żubr II"
-LWS-7 "Mewa II"
-PWS-A
-PWS Stemal VII
-PWS-1
-PWS-2
-PWS-3
-PWS-4
-PWS-5t2
-PWS-6
-PWS-7
-PWS-8
-PWS-10
-PWS-11
-PWS-12
-PWS-13
-PWS-14
-PWS-15
-PWS-16
-PWS-17
-PWS-18
-PWS-19
-PWS-20
-PWS-21
-PWS-22
-PWS-23
-PWS-24
-PWS-26
-PWS-27
-PWS-28
-PWS-33 "Wyżeł"
-PWS-35 "Ogar"
-PWS-36
-PWS-40/1927r.
-PWS-40 "Junak"/1938r.
-PWS-41
-PWS-42
-PWS-46
-PWS-50
-PWS-51
-PWS-52
-PWS-54
-PWS-60/1930r.
-PWS-60/1939r.
-PWS-61
-PWS-62
-PWS "Wyżeł II"

Guthwulf1 #8 Posted 17 February 2012 - 02:17 AM

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I think polish top tiers can be :
Lim-1(tier VIII) and Lim-2(tier IX), Lim-6(tier X) or PZL TS-11 Iskra (tier X), or TS-16 Grot (tier X).
Three first jet planes are polish modification's of soviet warplanes. Two last one's are full polish production's designed and made at the end of 50s.
Here you can see some pic's:
Grot(arrowhead):
http://q-zon-fighter...-TS-16-Grot.jpg
http://imageshack.us...0322001011.jpg/
Iskra(spark):
http://cdn-www.airli...8/8/0712883.jpg
http://www.hawk.stre...mages/iskra.jpg

Zalzany #9 Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:04 AM

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Why is it that there is always a hand full of people who want Poland as a faction in every game... The polish aces flew in the RAF same as french pilots after the fall of France. And just because we have a list of models doesn't mean we have a faction. You would have to take that list go threw each one, find out which ones saw real trials, not to mention find out how they handled. Then you have to adapt them to the game, and tweak them for balance purposes so they fit in tiers. That is a lot of work for planes that saw little or no action for the sole purpose of you getting to play polish.

Seriously its amazing how many games I play with factions that want Polish included, especially with all the flack I had to hear about French tanks. I had to deal with surrender comments for months over the french and they had battle tested tanks that were so good the Germans took them and used them. You never read about the Germans sacking Poland then using their vehicles. Heck Ive herd more about the urban legend of the Calvary group that took down a panzer with AT rifles. Which FYI they really had, and not only that most their AT rifles weren't useful, yet they had a great deal of them. Poland has always been Conservative, they relied more on old tech and tactics then France did at the start of the war.

Oh and I am a polish decedent hence why I have herd about the RAF squad, and the legend of the Calvary unit taking out a tank with riffles. Also french on my father's side, still wasn't rallying for French tanks though, to me they are just another set of tanks for me to play with. Right now they got enough to deal with with the 3 basic factions. The British, and Japanese planes were way more vital in the war then a giant list of planes that didn't see action, especially when their pilots were in believe it or not British planes lol

ZygZag #10 Posted 27 February 2012 - 03:08 PM

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View PostZalzany, on 20 February 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

(...)Heck Ive herd more about the urban legend of the Calvary group that took down a panzer with AT rifles. Which FYI they really had, and not only that most their AT rifles weren't useful, yet they had a great deal of them. Poland has always been Conservative, they relied more on old tech and tactics then France did at the start of the war.(...)
Man ... AT riffles were widely used during 39-42/43. Check somee infos before you start to take stand. Have you ever heard about PzB 35(p) - german AT rifle? Check where it came from ... :P

I wonder if your text is ok due to the regulations of this forum - I used to report text like that in WOW. But now I am not sure.

And, besides, you said that often see demand for polish "trees" in some games. It means polish players would have to have some our machines available. What bothers you? Why it hurts so much? You have a problem with that because of what? In WOW you have plenty of "never-seen-battle" constructions. So what would be the problem?

liam900 #11 Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:56 AM

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matinek #12 Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:36 PM

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Oh God, not Yaks! (Actually that's effin awesome)
For a hardcore IL-2 Strumovik player, all I see when I see a yak is this
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Jinxed_Katajainen #13 Posted 13 May 2012 - 04:21 PM

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View PostZalzany, on 20 February 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

I had to deal with surrender comments for months over the french and they had battle tested tanks that were so good the Germans took them and used them.

A paraphrase from a WW2 magazine I read a while back
'The Irony in the Western Front with the Germans using captured French equipment defending France from the invading French Army'

IndygoEEI #14 Posted 02 June 2012 - 07:33 PM

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Maybe not a Polish tree, but a World Tree?  Some countries have trainers that
might have to be armed though.  World Tree would have to go by country and
there'd be a lot of T1's for some who didn't get past that stage.  Germany has
two T1's btw, so that's not a problem.


Surprisingly Thailand had thier own planes in interwar period.  They did make
another plane in the 80's, but looks way too modern in style for the game to
be used as a high tier plane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTAF-5).  South
America has a few planes also and Mexico had a multirole aircraft near the
end of the 1920's.

Finland has an armed Prop plane in the 1970's that probably won't mess with
the balence if put into tier 10 and appropriately armed.  In fact a lot of countries
have made planes like these and are classified as trainers.

http://en.wikipedia....lmet_L-70_Vinka
http://en.wikipedia....Redigo  Further Developed Version


Saab 35 Draken falls into the pre 1960 and would tear anything apart at T10.
However, crashing and burning would be very likely nor is it likely to take a
beating very well either.
http://en.wikipedia..../Saab_35_Draken

Sharkyzero #15 Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:04 AM

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The World tree seems more likely than a purely Polish one. The Poles just aren't a priority as the variety (and usage) just isn't there when compared to the other major powers involved.

FreeFOXMIKE #16 Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:04 PM

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http://forum-na.worl...lots#entry67313

the "Pole's" where not forgotten we have text talked of them alot

http://www.youtube.c...d&v=3qUEiYWkDt0


Edited by FreeFOXMIKE, 26 July 2012 - 01:09 PM.

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