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Poll: A7M Plane Balance (33 members have cast votes)

How balanced do you think this plane is overall?

  1. Very overpowered (2 votes [6.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.06%

  2. Somewhat overpowered (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Reasonably balanced (6 votes [18.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  4. Somewhat underpowered (15 votes [45.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.45%

  5. Very underpowered (10 votes [30.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.30%

How fun is this plane to fly?

  1. One of my favorites! (1 vote [3.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.03%

  2. I really like it (8 votes [24.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.24%

  3. It’s fun (4 votes [12.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.12%

  4. Not my favorite (11 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  5. I hate it! (9 votes [27.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

How much of a factor does this plane contribute to a team’s victory? (Assume all planes are of the same tier in the match)

  1. Overwhelming contribution (2 votes [6.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.06%

  2. Strong contribution (1 vote [3.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.03%

  3. Reasonable contribution (10 votes [30.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.30%

  4. Low contribution (15 votes [45.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.45%

  5. Non-factor (5 votes [15.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.15%

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Raizei #1 Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:26 PM

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Hello Pilots!
We want to hear your feedback! In addition to answering the poll above, we would like your feedback on the categories below:
Battles played - How many games have you flown in this plane?
Plane balance - please explain why you think this plane is overpowered, underpowered, or balanced. Give specific reasoning like firepower, turn rates, climb speed, etc., that contribute to the planes balance.
Historical accuracy - please note any specific characteristics that make this plane unique historically and what things may be missing from that would better reflect the capabilities of the plane.
Power curve - How does the plane feel stock vs. fully upgraded?
Adjustment recommendations - Explain any recommendations you have to balance this plane and why.
Additional notes - Anything else you have to say about this plane that doesn’t fit in another section above. Include any tactics or uses that may have been overlooked by other players.
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JDMFreakz #2 Posted 09 August 2013 - 07:31 AM

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battles played:
around 50-70 if i remember

plane balance:
its UP imo, low engine power, not really good turning against lower tiers.. but nice cannons, stable, etc.. but a maxxed A6M5 will take this P-47 copy out from battle, seriously.

historical accuracy:
idk, since its only a prototype.. but seems heavy and has a low powered engine

power curve:
stock: super UP, trust me.
maxxed: kinda UP, but doin fine on the right hand.

adjustment:
give it the same manueverability like the A6M5, since its engine is low powered. and it shouldnt have a powerful engine.

 


WulfNose #3 Posted 09 August 2013 - 12:56 PM

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I have not yet unlocked it in open beta, but liked it in closed beta. My impression of the IJN line in open has been that, despite their maneuverability, they are often instantly trashed by boom / zoom. Realistic. I did nearly ace in my Type 091 last night, a fun plane to fly, but so fragile. Once in dogfight, "Zeros" stick to the enemy tail like a burr on a dog tail. Wulf

Triggerhappypilot #4 Posted 09 August 2013 - 10:43 PM

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The A7M is in a weird place- it's highly mobile, but not fast enough to use that to it's advantage. Given that it's supposed to be a transitional fighter from the pure turnfighting of the zero into the high-manuverability energy fighting hybrid style of the J4M, it could use a buff to engine power to allow people to stay within its performance envelope. Otherwise, it's balanced according to expectations.
Edit: I should mention that the Type 99-2 cannons need a buff to their muzzle velocity, but this is a general issue for all the  aircraft that have these cannons.

Edited by Triggerhappypilot, 13 August 2013 - 07:21 PM.


Sarcoo #5 Posted 13 August 2013 - 03:03 PM

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battles played:
around 21
plane balance:
It's way under powered for the tier its fighting in.. No power in the engine, it's turning is lacking where the actually battles are taking place.. It feels real sluggish in just about everything it does.
historical accuracy:
Not sure about this.
power curve:
abysmal stock... Upgraded its ok but still under powered.. The guns are good if you use the lower tier cannons because of the messed muzzle velocity on the higher tier.. Sticking with the 12.7's helps with keeping the one thing it has going for it up, its maneuverability, but then it really lacks the firepower for that tier.. Yes you can turn fight but by the time you get the hp down, you have a buddy of his coming in and basically making you useless or dead after 1 burst from his weapons..

Edited by Sarcoo, 13 August 2013 - 03:04 PM.


Noreaga #6 Posted 13 August 2013 - 03:57 PM

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Battles played - 39 (used my tokens as soon as i could)
Plane balance - On paper its not bad good turning reasonable firepower, but its operating altitude is way too high it take half the game to get up there only to have to dive down since no one flys up there. Once you get back down to earth it feels like you are flying through molasses and the plane acts like it too
Historical accuracy -
Power curve - pretty terrible start to finish never really found that upgraded made the plane better
Adjustment recommendations - lower its operating altitude a bit maybe a roll or yaw boost
Additional notes -

Nimis obnoxii curare


Squirg #7 Posted 23 August 2013 - 03:22 AM

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Battles played -  Could only stand flying this plane for 15 battles before I switched back to the A6M5
Plane balance -  Seriously underpowered. Operating altitude makes you want to do BnZ to get the most out of its turn rate and decent firepower, but its slow speed hinders that playstyle.
Historical accuracy-
Power curve - No noticeable difference.
Adjustment recommendations - Lower its operating altitude, seriously. As said before no one fights at 900m+ so much of its potential is wasted. Even in its optimum range it still feels sluggish and slow to respond unlike its predecessor.
Additional notes - TL;DR: Plane in its current form wants to BnZ and it sucks at it and also sucks at turn and burn due to horrid optimum altitude.

Edited by Squirg, 23 August 2013 - 03:50 AM.


battletank2 #8 Posted 28 August 2013 - 08:33 PM

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Plane balance: I think this plane is right in the middle of slightly underpowered and reasonably balanced due to its climb rate and speed, but turn rate and firepower seem balanced well to me. Operational altitude is WAY too high and needs to be lowered.

Historical accuracy:-

Power curve: The A7M stock is just horrible in my opinion but fully upgraded I liked it.

Adjustment recommendations: Raise its airspeed by a bit and lower the operational altitude by a bit

Additional notes: -

Draconis76 #9 Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:36 PM

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Plane balance: Stock, severely under powered. It can't seem to hold its own in maneuver or firepower, and is vapor when it takes hits.

Historical accuracy:- Near as I can tell, it is historically accurate. The stock engine was rejected because it was... horribly under-powered. That's the issue though. Should we be expected to fly in combat a plane that was withheld from combat because it was severely underpowered?

Power curve: It might be good fully upgraded, but you'd pretty much have to lose your way there or be carried, or spend free xps.

Adjustment recommendations: Drop the first engine and at least start it with the MK9A

Draconis76 #10 Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:06 PM

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Addendum: It seems 'ok-ish' with the MK9A. That doesn't explain needing 19k xps to get that engine. It wasn't a new engine, just in short supply. Otherwise it would have been in the plane from the beginning.

_Down_Range #11 Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:34 PM

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(Since the 5.3 patch).. I LOVE the new guns on the A7M (99-2 model 5 )... now thats what I am talking about! Good job on the changes for the A7M its now more competitive in its tier range.

NOW.... add the A7M3 with the HA-43 super charged engine.


Edited by Olde_Crow, 23 November 2013 - 06:31 AM.


JDMFreakz #12 Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:08 AM

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thanks for the buff WG! i love this plane now :great:


i hope you wont nerf this AC afterward, this is working as intened imo..

 


mrlomo #13 Posted 07 October 2013 - 02:45 AM

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Battles played - 50+
Plane balance - The newest releases have made this a better plane.  However, it does not stack up well against other tier 7 and higher A/C because it does not do well at high altitude where the higher tier A/C operate
Historical accuracy - While this was mostly a test A/C it seems to me the Japs would have designed a new fighter to work at the higher altitudes to get to the B-29s. So because the A/C tops out below 5000 feet I would say there is a historic inaccuracy
Power curve - There is not much of a change as the A/C is upgraded
Adjustment recommendations - The operational ceiling needs to be increased to at least 7K feet based on my comments above
Additional notes - Maybe the MK9E engine or similar can be the Supercharged Ha-43 Engine so this would give it better higher Altitude performance.

Edited by mrlomo, 08 October 2013 - 10:26 PM.

Mr LoMo

_Down_Range #14 Posted 12 October 2013 - 04:01 AM

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View Postmrlomo, on 07 October 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

Battles played - 50+Plane balance - The newest releases have made this a better plane.  However, it does not stack up well against other tier 7 and higher A/C because it does not do well at high altitude where the higher tier A/C operateHistorical accuracy - While this was mostly a test A/C it seems to me the Japs would have designed a new fighter to work at the higher altitudes to get to the B-29s. So because the A/C tops out below 5000 feet I would say there is a historic inaccuracyPower curve - There is not much of a change as the A/C is upgradedAdjustment recommendations - The operational ceiling needs to be increased to at least 7K feet based on my comments aboveAdditional notes - Maybe the MK9E engine or similar can be the Supercharged Ha-43 Engine so this would give it better higher Altitude performance.
The Japanese had failed to progress their aircraft much like the Germans did... keeping the same idealogy behind what they considered an advancement ( they keep poor armor, no self-sealing fuel tanks, low alititude performance, high manueveability) until it was too late. You are making judgements on planes SO FAR in the Japanese line... if you research other aircraft that will make it into the Japanese line (ie. the Ki-100 for example) they (japanese govt) decided to make higher performing planes, only a few which saw combat before the end of the war. For information purpose, the Ki-100 had a version that was designed to engage the B-29 and the J2M4 was also a high altitude interceptor. I am sure the Devs will add this aircraft to the lineup amoung others ( there is still  more Japanese jets that has not appeared yet-- the Japanese version of the ME-262, the J8N-1 Kikka, J1N1 Gekko, Ki-201 for example) and the Japanese line will be more playable at mid-level to higher tiers and at higher altitudes. WoWP is just getting started and the current plane lineups for all current countries is just the start... many more are coming. Personally I think its exciting getting in on the ground level of a game like this and seeing all the aircraft additions.Other exciting Japanese aircraft to look for:Ki-43,Ki-61,Ki-84,Ki-100,J8N-1 Kikka.....and there is their heavy fighters( Ki-93,Ki-96, Kogiken Plan 1 Type A) along with a couple of GA aircraft (Ki-98 & Ki-102) line too so keep an eye out and look up some of these planes. But I do agree that the A7M3 with the Ha-43 supercharged engine should be brought aboard.
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Mitsubishi-Payen PA.400
J1N1 Gekko
Kayaba Katsuodori
Ki-94-I
Ki-94-II
Ki-88
Ki-98 (Ground Attack)
Ki-102 (Ground Attack)
Ki-46-IIIB (Ground Attack)
Ki-46-III Kai (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-73 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-64 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-93 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-96 (Heavy Fighter)
Kogiken Plan I Type A (Heavy Fighter)
Kogiken Plan I Type B1 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-102 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-108 (Heavy Fighter)
Ki-88
R2Y Keiun
Ki-61-I
Ki-61-II ( high altitude fighter )
Ki-84-IC (high altitude fighter)  <----- if WoWP does this one right it'll be the one to really look for in a fighter that stands up to advanced allied aircraft.
Ki-87-I (high altitude fighter)
Ki-87-II (high altitude fighter)
J2M4 Model 32 Raiden (high altitude fighter)
J2M4 Model 33 Raiden (high altitude fighter)
J2M4 Model 34 Raiden (high altitude fighter)
Ki-100-I
Ki-100-II (high altitude fighter)
N1K1, 2, 3, 4, 5 -J
J3K1 Type 17 (Interceptor)
J6K1 (Interceptor)
Ki-201 (Jet)
J8N-1 Kikka (Jet)
Kayaba Katsuodori (Jet)
Ki-162 (Jet)
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There are more than this but I think it should keep you busy and spirits up about the Japanese Line  :trollface:

Edited by Olde_Crow, 12 October 2013 - 08:16 AM.





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