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Poll: P-39 Plane Balance (21 members have cast votes)

How balanced do you think this plane is overall?

  1. Very overpowered (3 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  2. Somewhat overpowered (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Reasonably balanced (12 votes [57.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.14%

  4. Somewhat underpowered (4 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  5. Very underpowered (2 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

How fun is this plane to fly?

  1. One of my favorites! (5 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  2. I really like it (3 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  3. It’s fun (8 votes [38.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.10%

  4. Not my favorite (4 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  5. I hate it! (1 vote [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

How much of a factor does this plane contribute to a team’s victory? (Assume all planes are of the same tier in the match)

  1. Overwhelming contribution (2 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  2. Strong contribution (5 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  3. Reasonable contribution (9 votes [42.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.86%

  4. Low contribution (3 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  5. Non-factor (2 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

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Raizei #1 Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:43 AM

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Hello Pilots!
We want to hear your feedback! In addition to answering the poll above, we would like your feedback on the categories below:
Battles played - How many games have you flown in this plane?
Plane balance - please explain why you think this plane is overpowered, underpowered, or balanced. Give specific reasoning like firepower, turn rates, climb speed, etc., that contribute to the planes balance.
Historical accuracy - please note any specific characteristics that make this plane unique historically and what things may be missing from that would better reflect the capabilities of the plane.
Power curve - How does the plane feel stock vs. fully upgraded?
Adjustment recommendations - Explain any recommendations you have to balance this plane and why.
Additional notes - Anything else you have to say about this plane that doesn’t fit in another section above. Include any tactics or uses that may have been overlooked by other players.
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_Down_Range #2 Posted 14 August 2013 - 04:33 AM

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Fun plane.
I have no suggestions for this aircraft as far as changes go.
As a prem plane it's fine just like it is.

Schalldampfer #3 Posted 17 August 2013 - 06:14 AM

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Battles played - 53
Plane balance - Good. Nice maneuverability, but 37mm cannon never hits in a dogfight, but two 12.7mm guns work well. The 37mm cannon is very nice to have a head-on, or to kill  a damaged ground target.
  I can't decide how is its contribution to victory, because I suffered from other planes in my team blown up in first seconds every battle with this plane.
Historical accuracy - Accurate. I have nothing to say. (But I can't understand why A6M2s could hunt this plane in the history)
Additional notes - nothing

SkyWolf__WM #4 Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:41 PM

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Battles played - 24 in OB
Plane balance - The aircraft was a pig IRL
Historical accuracy - See previous Pig Comment
Adjustment recommendations - I kinda like it not being a pig in game. wouldn't be much fun if it was
Additional notes -  Leave it alone

Edited by SkyWolf__WM, 17 August 2013 - 12:41 PM.

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JDMFreakz #5 Posted 17 August 2013 - 01:49 PM

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firepower: a bit weak, only good when you can land the 37mm
speed: balanced
manueverability: balanced
climb rate: shouldnt be that good imo

just give it the similiar physic as early I-16 (super manueverable, but cant really climb well)

 


WulfNose #6 Posted 17 August 2013 - 03:20 PM

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One of the legendary planes I had looked forward to playing. Flew it a fair amount in CB, but it was such a dog. Only 7 games in OB since I had tokens enough to train. A plane built around its amazing cannon, the cannon is SO nerfed in-game as to render this plane a weak shadow of a fighter. Once I a while, the cannon will connect (when it is not resting), and will one-shot a target. It really deserves to have the cannon restored to the role it was designed to play. Wulf

PinTBC #7 Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:12 AM

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Historically the plane had a slow climb and a top speed of 350ish to 400ish (why the British ordered something like 200, but I think only fielded one squadron).

It was poorly suited for Europe, but was fantastic for the air fights over Russia which were often (usually) held at much lower altitudes.

The pilots didn't seem to like the 37 mm cannon much as it had a real slow rate of fire, and only held something like 30ish shots.

I don't have one, but I know that if I see one in the air, it gets high priority targetting because it is a very dangerous aircraft.  I think it is a little too powerful for the plane it was...

Heh #8 Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:40 AM

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View PostPinTBC, on 24 August 2013 - 04:12 AM, said:

Historically the plane had a slow climb and a top speed of 350ish to 400ish (why the British ordered something like 200, but I think only fielded one squadron).

It was poorly suited for Europe, but was fantastic for the air fights over Russia which were often (usually) held at much lower altitudes.

The pilots didn't seem to like the 37 mm cannon much as it had a real slow rate of fire, and only held something like 30ish shots.

I don't have one, but I know that if I see one in the air, it gets high priority targetting because it is a very dangerous aircraft.  I think it is a little too powerful for the plane it was...

The P-39's climb rate wasn't actually bad with 3.6k ft/min:

http://www.wwiiaircr.../P-39/P-39.html

The main problem was the lack of a multi-stage supercharger, so it cannot intercept at high alt, and unfortunately, strategic bombers flew very high up. Russia's cloudy weather favored mid alt engagements, so the P-39 had a great climb rate and a great speed limit. Could easily take down an Emil with the MGs, although 109Fs tend to climb a bit better.

Now, in here, the P-39's cannon overheats fast. Usually I treat the cannon with little respect, since most people using the P-39 are clearly terrible at aiming.
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OMG Heh you have had so many posts O_O

boxtosser #9 Posted 24 August 2013 - 06:46 PM

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View PostHeh, on 24 August 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

The P-39's climb rate wasn't actually bad with 3.6k ft/min:
http://www.wwiiaircr.../P-39/P-39.html
The main problem was the lack of a multi-stage supercharger, so it cannot intercept at high alt, and unfortunately, strategic bombers flew very high up. Russia's cloudy weather favored mid alt engagements, so the P-39 had a great climb rate and a great speed limit. Could easily take down an Emil with the MGs, although 109Fs tend to climb a bit better.
Now, in here, the P-39's cannon overheats fast. Usually I treat the cannon with little respect, since most people using the P-39 are clearly terrible at aiming.
Another problem in the Pacific theater was its lack of range.  The mid-mounted engine config prevented mounting fuselage tanks.

Edited by boxtosser, 24 August 2013 - 06:46 PM.



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PinTBC #10 Posted 25 August 2013 - 02:52 PM

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I saw the climb rate in the specs and was surprised.  Before the war the English had ordered a bunch of them, but ended up not liking them, and I'm pretty sure the article I read talked about 2 main things, the operational ceiling, and the climb rate.  The British hated them so much that they sent all theirs to Russia...

Now the Russians loved em because they flew very will in the low to mid altitudes.

Heh #11 Posted 25 August 2013 - 04:11 PM

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View PostPinTBC, on 25 August 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

I saw the climb rate in the specs and was surprised.  Before the war the English had ordered a bunch of them, but ended up not liking them, and I'm pretty sure the article I read talked about 2 main things, the operational ceiling, and the climb rate.  The British hated them so much that they sent all theirs to Russia...

Now the Russians loved em because they flew very will in the low to mid altitudes.

The climb rate was good, better than the P-40E by far. It's just that you couldn't fit the Allison's multi-stage supercharger onto a P-39, so it ended up being too terrible to intercept heavy bombers at high alt and its cannon's AP shells were too weak to destroy tanks. So they were sent to Russia, since the latter didn't really have many planes to choose from aside from the Yak-1 at the time.
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Katariana #12 Posted 25 August 2013 - 09:27 PM

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View PostPinTBC, on 24 August 2013 - 04:12 AM, said:

I don't have one, but I know that if I see one in the air, it gets high priority targetting because it is a very dangerous aircraft.  I think it is a little too powerful for the plane it was...

At the moment, I have to disagree with you on that. The .50 MGs on it are effectively peashooters, and the derp gun on it seems pitifully impotent and inaccurate. Especially compared to the ones on the Yak-7 - Yak-9U. Those three are extremely dangerous aircraft.
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akh101 #13 Posted 19 September 2013 - 01:42 AM

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Why this being remove from in game?


and not release?

it a good plane and good as is....why remove it?


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tanky_the_tank #14 Posted 22 October 2013 - 08:08 PM

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I kept P-39 from closed beta for earning credits, seems like altitude rebalance hurt it like other Russian planes. Gets left behind by fast movers and can't climb up to fight them, cannon not as effective as before, hard to earn credits when you can't keep up and damage stuff. It's still good against stuff it can catch but there's less to catch.

View Post Traurig_Yoda, on 14 March 2015 - 12:41 AM, said:

another ridiculous remark by TtT.

 


JDMFreakz #15 Posted 21 December 2013 - 12:07 PM

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got 2.2K gold atm, can i buy this plane later? i probably dont buy gold anymore..

 

really want to taste this plane since OBT..


 


ComradeBlyat #16 Posted 22 December 2013 - 09:04 PM

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View PostJDMFreakz, on 21 December 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

got 2.2K gold atm, can i buy this plane later? i probably dont buy gold anymore..

 

really want to taste this plane since OBT..

 

Youll probably need somewhere between 3000 and 3500 gold for a T6 prem.


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